(Atmospheric methane levels as measured at the Mauna Loa Observatory. Image source: NOAA/ESRL.)
Atmospheric methane levels as measured by the Mauna Loa Observatory (MLO) showed a continued steepening rate of increase through late 2014 — featuring one rather troubling spike late last month.
The measure, which has been recording atmospheric methane levels since the middle of the 20th Century, continued to ramp higher with readings hitting an average of 1850 parts per billion by late November.
Notably, this increase is at a faster pace than yearly averages for all of the last decade.
In addition, a single spike to 1910 parts per billion took place last month. This large departure of 60 parts per billion above the average was somewhat unusual for the Mauna Loa measure. The collection site is rather far from human or Arctic emissions sources which makes it less likely to feature anomalous spikes due to local influences. This particular spike also represents the largest single departure from the base line measure since 1984 (when the ESRL record begins).
Overall drivers of the more recent increase in global methane levels beginning around 2007 come from an increase in human emissions (likely due to rising rates of fossil fuel exploitation — primarily through hydrofracking and coal mining) as well as what appears to also be an increase in Arctic emissions. Large methane sources in Siberia, over the East Siberian Arctic Shelf, in the Laptev Sea, the Nares Strait, and west of Svalbard have been observed in both satellite monitors and through observations taken by scientists and researchers on the ground. Overall, a significant overburden of greenhouse gasses centers on the Arctic and appears to be enhanced by local carbon (methane and CO2) sources in the region.
More comprehensive measurements of methane releases over Alaska (according to NASA JPL), on the other hand, have not yet shown methane release departures above the global norm for land areas. But the observational record for Alaska composes just one year (2012), so there is no way to yet determine if permafrost carbon and methane releases from the tundra in that region increased to achieve their current rates. It is worth noting generally that the terrestrial zone for Alaska and its off shore region are not, as yet, major carbon release hot spots.
Global Warming Potential at Least 20 Times CO2
Methane (CH4) is an important greenhouse gas due to the fact that its global warming potential (GWP) over short periods is much higher when compared to a similar volume of CO2 (most measures consider the GWP of methane to be 20 times that of a similar volume of CO2). That said, methane’s residence time in the atmosphere is much shorter than CO2 and CO2 volumes are much larger. So CO2 is considered to be a more important gas when it comes to long term climate change. Nonetheless, CH4 increases since the start of the industrial revolution put it as the #2 gas now forcing the world to warm.
Very large outbursts of CH4 from the global carbon store (including terrestrial and ocean stores) during the Permian and PETM are hypothesized to have set off very rapid increases in global temperature. For some prominent researchers, this potential hazard is seen to be very low under current warming conditions. Others, however, seem very concerned that a rapid methane outburst under the very fast rate of human warming could be a tipping point we are fast approaching.
Observations in a Murky Scientific Context
It is important to note that the current profile of atmospheric methane increase does not yet look like one of catastrophic release. Instead, what we see is an overall ramping up of atmospheric levels.
The issue of catastrophic release potential — raised by Peter Wadhams, the Arctic Methane Emergency Group, and Dr. Simeletov and Shakhova among others — is not one that is certain or settled in the science.
As an example, Dr. Shakhova identifies a substantial but non-catastrophic 17 megaton atmospheric release from the East Siberian Arctic Shelf (equal to about 8 percent of the human emission and a substantial increase from a previous estimate of 8 megatons per year in 2010) as currently ongoing. However, both Simeletov and Shakhova have been the object of criticism due to their identification of a risk of a 3.5 gigaton per year methane release should all the East Siberian Arctic Shelf methane hot spots become active. Such a release would, in one year, nearly double the amount of all methane currently in the atmosphere (5 gigatons).
Dr. Peter Wadhams, another Arctic expert, has also received criticism for his assessment that a 50 gigaton release from the large subsea Arctic methane stores could be possible as sea ice retreat spurs Arctic Ocean sea floors to warm.
Other scientists such as GISS lead Gavin Schmidt and prominent Earth Systems modeler David Archer have noted that such very large releases aren’t currently likely. They point to natural traps that tend to tamp down sea based release rates (sometimes stopping as much as 90 percent of a destabilized methane source from hitting the atmosphere). They also note that current warming has probably not yet exceeded levels seen during the Eemian (130,000 years ago) and no large methane releases were observed at that time from Arctic carbon stores like the ESAS. They tend to take the view that any increasing rate of release coming from Arctic methane stores in particular and Arctic carbon stores in general will be very slow — so slow as to not be a significant amplifier of human warming (less than 5 percent) this century.
In general, between these two rather extreme and increasingly polarized views on Arctic methane, there appears to be very little in the way of middle ground. Although, a loosely related survey of permafrost carbon experts found a consensus opinion that the total carbon emission (including CO2 and methane) from land based tundra alone would equal between 10 and 35 percent of the current annual human emission by the end of this Century. It’s worth noting that this survey assessment does not include potential releases from the submerged permafrost in the ESAS or releases from other global carbon stores as a result of human warming.
The current rapid pace of human-caused warming — heating some regions of the Arctic as fast as 0.5 to 1 C per decade — also caused some of Archer and Schmidt’s scientific forebears, particularly James Hansen, to be rather less dismissive of the potential for a significant release from global methane stores, especially those in the Arctic. In any case, current human greenhouse gas emissions of nearly 50 gigatons CO2e each year are now in the process of pushing global temperatures past Eemian thresholds. An excession likely to elevate Anthropocene temperatures beyond all Eemian estimates before the mid 2030s under current rates of global greenhouse gas emissions and expected increases in fossil fuel burning.
So it is in this murky scientific context that we must interpret risks involving a continuing and apparently ramping rate of atmospheric methane increase. And what we can say with certainty is that there is little evidence that we are now hitting an exponential rise in global atmospheric methane levels. But that there is some evidence that a risk for such an event is real and requires much more detailed research and public dissemination of information to put what are some very valid concerns to rest.
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Raymond DeBrane
/ December 8, 2014If methane release from the Arctic is similar to boiling water in a pot on the stove, then over a short period of time the methane will erupt in mass just as it only takes a short period of time to bring water to a boil. Only time will tell just how fast the methane is released in great amounts.
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robertscribbler
/ December 8, 2014It’s an object of continued concern for me. My fear is that we are at a similar place now on carbon store response to where we were in the 80s to 90s on ice sheet response. We’re now learning that those ice sheet (stability) assumption were far too conservative and keep having to adjust accordingly.
On a related note, I just got an email from Martin Kakobsson of SWERUS C3 and he notes that draft reports on some of the ‘more pressing research issues’ will be out this spring. So we can look forward to that.
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tristedrille
/ December 9, 2014Hello, Mr Scribbler.
I’m really pleased to hear news about datas collected from Swerus expedition. I wouldn’t say they overhelmed media so far.
By the way, Noaa esrl Tiksi methane concentration graph has been, at last, updated. I let you have a look, if you didn’t. End of the year seemed pretty concerning to me…
Glad to read you,
Regards
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 2014I did see the Tiksi graph — on the upswing to 1950 ppb, might hit 1960 at peak this winter. 3 years now in that record.
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robertscribbler
/ December 8, 2014Powerful 940 mb low just bombed out off Greenland. Has to be one of the strongest North Atlantic storms on record for this time of year. Storm track model brings it over Iceland, skirting Scottish coasts and surging into Scandinavia as a double barrel 970 mb system by Friday. England is lucky the storm track is still a bit to the north. This thing is a beast.
Meridonal moisture and wind feed into this storm stretches all the way from 20 North Latitude to Iceland. Just a huge, huge frontal storm with that 940 mb storm as the anchor off the SE tip of greenland.
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Griffin
/ December 9, 2014I have seen some concerns for serious coastal damage from wave action in Ireland from that storm Robert.
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 2014Looks like one of the bombs from last year. Similar zone of origin. Right off Greenland.
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 2014The Greenland storm is now 935 mb. Very large circulation.
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 201490 mph 10 minute winds on Nullschool near the Greenland coast.
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Spike
/ December 9, 2014Arne Vogler, of Lews Castle College UHI, said: “The coming storm has the potential to hit us with higher waves than the most severe event we have observed under the Hebridean Marine Energy Futures project.
“Wave buoys and acoustic sensors that were deployed on 4 February 2013 off the Isle of Lewis had recorded extreme waves with maximum wave heights in excess of 25m observed at a location 15km north-west of Lewis.
“I am anticipating similar or even slightly higher wave heights tomorrow, due to the combination of different atmospheric pressure systems and the long fetch across the Atlantic in which the waves can build up.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-30393614
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 2014Wave heights in excess of 80 feet. Damn.
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todaysguestis
/ December 8, 2014“A new study by researchers at the University of Exeter has found early warning signals of a reorganisation of the Atlantic oceans’ circulation which could have a profound impact on the global climate system.
The research, published today in the journal Nature Communications, used a simulation from a highly complex model to analyse the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC), an important component of the Earth’s climate system.
It showed that early warning signals are present up to 250 years before it collapses, suggesting that scientists could monitor the real world overturning circulation for the same signals.”
http://phys.org/news/2014-12-early-abrupt-climate.html
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wili
/ December 8, 2014RS, I believe that Shcindel et al. in:
Shindell, D.T., G. Faluvegi, D.M. Koch, G.A. Schmidt, N. Unger, and S.E. Bauer, 2009:
“Improved attribution of climate forcing to emissions.”
Science, 326, 716-718, doi:10.1126/science.1174760.
http://www.see.ed.ac.uk/~shs/Climate%20change/Data%20sources/Shindell%20methane.pdf found
Calculated the Global Warming Potential for methane to be 105 times that of CO2 over decadal time scale, and some 35 times over century time scales.
Further amplification would happen with very rapid release of methane, since the atmospheric hydroxyl crucial for its breakdown would be depleted. (Sorry, couldn’t find the paper on that one right off the bat.) So you might want to adjust some of those numbers in your (as usual, excellent) main post.
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wili
/ December 8, 2014Of course, as always, I could be wrong!
Another thing I could be wrong about: I thought it was Shakhova who brought up the possibility of a sudden ’50 gigaton release’ in a lecture she gave.
Also, iirc, you should add Mann to the list of scientists that don’t think catastrophic release of methane from ESAS can be ruled out. (Again, sorry not to have links to sources handy. If I have time, I’ll try rooting around tonight, unless someone else can put their sticky fingers on them first!)
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robertscribbler
/ December 8, 2014Wadhams wrote a letter to Nature on the issue of the 50 GT release. I wouldn’t be surprised if Shakhova also mentioned it in a talk. She brought up the possibility of. 3.5 GT annual release as early as 2010-2011.
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robertscribbler
/ December 8, 2014There’s quite a few GWP numbers floating around. I’m using IPCC. But Shindell, might be a better fit.
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Barry Danilow
/ December 8, 2014And it looks like, just today, CO2 has surpassed 400ppm for the first time this cycle (if the measurement holds):
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/weekly.html
…which didn’t occur until March of this past year (due to the annual cycles and fluctuations), and first only briefly crossed it (in recorded/human history) the year/cycle before. At this rate, by next year (or the year after), it won’t be dipping below 400ppm at all.
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robertscribbler
/ December 8, 2014Well, well, well. Good catch!
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Spike
/ December 15, 2014Yup someone on twitter posted this graph – it is the first December to breach 400ppm in the Keeling record apparaently.
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Griffin
/ December 9, 2014Robert, I found this very interesting for the damage from an average winter storm. I realize that astronomical ideas are running high but it sure looks like time is running thin for many locations on the outer banks.http://outerbanksvoice.com/2014/12/08/coastal-storms-sand-overwash-close-n-c-12-on-hatteras/
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Griffin
/ December 9, 2014Tides, not ideas! Autocorrect fail.
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 2014What was Apple thinking??
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 2014This is just a 1-2 foot storm tide… Large waves on top. When we were kids going on a surfing trip to the Banks, that kind of storm tide was nothing.
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eugene
/ December 9, 2014Often I feel like I’m on the Titanic and somebody has just come from the breach reporting the amount of water coming in. A guy sitting at the bar says “It can’t possibly be happening” followed by long academic rationalizations as to why he’s right. I think some of these people need to go look.
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 9, 2014XMas idea….
BP oil spill snow globe.
http://fancy.com/things/260810945/BP-Oil-Spill-Snow-Globes
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 2014Wow. Yeah. That about does it.
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Apneaman
/ December 9, 2014Extinction Rate Rivals That of Dinosaurs, 2014 Likely Hottest Year Ever
http://truth-out.org/news/item/27869-extinction-rate-rivals-that-of-dinosaurs-2014-likely-hottest-year-ever
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 2014A good overview of ongoing threats and impacts. I see the Royal Society is playing with the geo engineering beast. Sewing clouds with sea salt. May as well just salt the Earth.
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Spike
/ December 9, 2014Coal seam gas field in Australia reported here to be producing local levels of CH4 up to 6890 ppb and CO2 541ppm. The CH4 and CO2 δ13C source values showed distinct differences within and outside the production field, indicating a CH4 source within the production field that has a δ13C signature comparable to the regional CSG.
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11270-014-2216-2
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 2014Just monstrous.
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Ouse M.D.
/ December 9, 2014Prof. McPherson and Prof. Beckwith not mentioned at all.
Both say- based on data – if not mistaken- Greenland samples of PETM that a 5 C increase is possible with a short span of 13 years.
CO2 alone is not capable of such rapid heating. So , methane stores could be more vulnerable than according to IPCC.
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 2014Cheers Ouse. The question for me on this one is this — is Guy or Beckwith involved in published observational or model based science on this issue. To my knowledge, it’s mostly a kind of meta analysis coming from both. Not that meta analysis isn’t important, but I’m looking at base science (papers etc) for the purpose on this article. If Beckwith published a peer reviewed paper on the 13 C short span temperature rise, then by all means post the link and I’ll take a look to have it included.
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Alexander Ač
/ December 9, 2014Robert, the paper they are quoting is here:
http://www.pnas.org/content/110/40/15908.abstract
But other scientists (e.g. Zachos) don’t agree and I think the same – 5°C of GLOBAL temperature rise in 13 years is non-sense,
best,
Alex
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 2014Yeah. I don’t see much evidence for that in the paleoclimate record. In any case, so long as we have ice sheets the negative feedbacks from their melt can also put the breaks on atmospheric warming.
PS apologies for the nonsense spam. Don’t know how it got through.
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wili
/ December 10, 2014“5°C of GLOBAL temperature rise in 13 years”
Well, if something caused all aerosol emissions to stop, we would have a global temperature rise of between .5 to 2 degrees C within weeks to months, iirc.
If that prompted (or was prompted by, or just happened to coincide with) a sudden catastrophic methane emission (or a series of them) of the sort that Shakhova and Wadhams are talking about, I would think we would be able to get rather close to that level of temperature rise in something like that time frame, especially with some positive feedbacks kicking in.
I would think it would take quite a few years or decades for enough ice to melt into the sea to start exerting the kind of negative feedback that rs is talking about, but maybe not.
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Spike
/ December 9, 2014May be worth signposting this article on Arctic methane in the UK press about 18months ago which has lots of useful links. Interesting to see the Met Office review of the situation was not dismissive of the potential for significant to severe release.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2013/aug/05/7-facts-need-to-know-arctic-methane-time-bomb
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 2014Thanks for the link, Spike. I’ll look at including it above. I generally don’t see too much dismissive ness coming from the broader community on the issue. I’d say the overall tone is one of cautious concern. Inevitability and dismissiveness are the more rare alternatives.
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Neil Gundel
/ December 9, 2014Let’s say the odds are a thousand to one we don’t initiate another Great Dying in the 21st century. Should we relax and let the GOP block Obama’s carbon rules? The Market will figure it out, right?
Look at it this way: If Southwest Airlines* had only a 99.9% chance of landing safely, they would have 4 fatal crashes every day. How much would you need to save to fly an airline with those odds? What if you knew the crash would be in slow motion with 8 billion passengers on board? Would you call for elimination of the FAA?
Excellent article!
(*to pick an airline at random)
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Ouse M.D.
/ December 9, 2014http://climatedesk.org/2013/12/us-navy-predicts-summer-ice-free-arctic-by-2016/
I guess this will certainly get us pretty close to that rapid methane store destabilization scenario…
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 2014Wadhams is now in the 2020 range.
An ice free Arctic during summers would heighten the risk. Although with cloudier summers for 2013 and 2014, we’ve seen a bit of a false pause in losses. And GIS melt together with a continually weakening Gulf Stream provide some cause to look for these negative feedbacks fighting against the late summer melt trend from here on out.
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Kevin Jones
/ December 9, 2014NOAA/ESRL also shows a larger than recent seasonal CH4 spike at Easter Island. I like Archer’s The Long Thaw very much and wonder if we spend too much focus on century long timelines. After all Nature has a better memory than humans and no statuate of limitations.
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 2014The Century timescale is an artificial constraint that has tended to distort the science. We should focus on what will probably happen overall. Then set benchmarks on that temporal arc. We can then issue warnings based on both what will happen soon and on what will happen later.
If we don’t any future generation that survives to look back at us will hate us for our combination of greed and myopia. Planning for the Century timescale could best be described as a sales pitch to global corporations and economic interests. Well, it’s pretty clear that the outreach to those interests was an abysmal failure.
We’re not going to sell this to those invested in oil, gas, coal. We need to look beyond these destructive systems and speak directly to people — who if they know the truth will fight to turn away from a kind of consumerism that is clearly laying waste to just about everything.
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Kevin Jones
/ December 9, 2014(sp) statute…
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 2014😉
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Mark from New England
/ December 9, 2014In the dismal world of American politics, here’s a story from today’s Boston Globe on Senator Inofe’s nefarious plans when it comes to environmental protection and climate change:
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2014/12/09/senator-james-inhofe-congress-most-outspoken-climate-denier-prepares-take-environment-gavel-promises-thwart-obama-regulations/8T7JivZPSoFYskneW1hffI/story.html
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 9, 2014Koch will chair the Senate Committee on the Environment and Public Works via proxy.
“People and political committees associated with Koch Industries, the energy company, have been his largest individual contributor over the course of his career.”
Lobbyists/Corporations own the government via contributions (graft). Is it even possible now to claw the nation back so it belongs to the people?
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 2014A good question, Andy.
The fossil fuel industry is waging war against both democracy and our future. Do we have any rational choice, as the inheritors of a liberty they would strip from us, but to fight it with every scrap of power and influence we still hold?
When we look at the world about us. At all the terrible blows to our world and to the life in it, I think it is plain for all to see that there is no worse brand of tyranny. A fossil fuel tyranny that forces people, as they consume, to lay waste to all that is good and whole.
They’ve turned so much of humankind into destroyers of the Earth. We should refuse them. Cast them out for the horrors that they are.
This simply cannot stand.
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Ed-M
/ December 10, 2014“Is it even possible now to claw this nation back…?”
Left and Roght will HAVE to join forces if the desire to replace or even revamp the system will have any chance of success.
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 2014Inhofe — going to bat for the oil, gas, and coal corps that are playing him like some kind of diabolical marionette.
I see a long train of vetoes on the way. And good. Because the American people need to know what these republican bozos really stand for. They are a force for extinction all unto themselves.
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 9, 2014A piece on extinction and a rather bright fellow who knows a lot about the subject.
http://news.mongabay.com/2007/0312-interview_peter_raven.html
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Mark from New England
/ December 9, 2014Andy, Thanks for this. I read a book of his in the 80’s…
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 2014Well done.
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Chris Machens
/ December 9, 2014Is a similar situation like last year unfolding?
Extreme Winter Storms Northern Europe December 2014 http://climatestate.com/2014/12/09/extreme-winter-storms-northern-europe-december-2014/
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 2014At least for now. This storm is one of the most powerful recorded in the North Atlantic basin, ever. Looks like we may see something similar to last year’s record spate of extreme UK weather. Batten down the hatches…
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davidlwindt
/ December 9, 2014Warmer Pacific Ocean could release millions of tons of seafloor methane
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/12/141209101257.htm
Researchers found that water off the coast of Washington is gradually warming at a depth of 500 meters, about a third of a mile down. That is the same depth where methane transforms from a solid to a gas. The research suggests that ocean warming could be triggering the release of a powerful greenhouse gas.
“We calculate that methane equivalent in volume to the Deepwater Horizon oil spill is released every year off the Washington coast,” said Evan Solomon, a UW assistant professor of oceanography. He is co-author of a paper to appear in Geophysical Research Letters.
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 2014David — this is also a zone of increasingly more dangerous ocean anoxia. We may be looking at a hydrogen sulfide event for this region in the coming years.
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Phil S
/ December 9, 2014Come to Queensland if you want to escape the escalating impacts of AGW. Seems, if you close your eyes hard enough, we’ve got nothing to worry about.
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-09/seeney-removes-climate-change-references-from-council-plan/5954914
My thanks and best wishes to the Scribbler and all contributors
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 2014Tumbling down the rabbit hole…
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Wharf Rat
/ December 9, 2014Weather whiplash
Huge Rainstorm Poised to Ease California’s Thirst
By: Dr. Jeff Masters ,
The wettest storm to affect the U.S. West Coast since 2009 is gathering strength over the Pacific Ocean, and promises to bring much-needed drought relief to thirsty California Wednesday through Friday. Rainfall amounts of 3 – 8 inches are expected over most of Northern California, with snowfall amounts of 1 – 3 feet predicted in the Sierra Mountains. As noted by Wunderground weather historian Christopher C. Burt in his Monday post, California Drought Situation Improves, this week’s storm may be the strongest and wettest storm to hit the region since October 2009, when the last major ‘pineapple express’ soaked the state.
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=2877
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 2014It’s an interesting dance right now. The approach of this storm is slow — fighting that warm water and related warm air bulge. But it does like it will get through to Northern California. So another soaking likely on the way.
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Jay M
/ December 9, 2014Hey, let’s not leave Cali out of the picture–the weatherheads on teevee say the Thursday storm may be disruptive–high winds and of course rain. We are at about a third of annual rainfall already in SF, I think RS said that the high seemed to be moving towards the midwest. Maybe have a crop impact if it stays there? Need quite a bit more than average here to really break the drought, and the snow levels are high so far, which is a needed water reserve to feed the reservoirs during the summer.
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 2014GFS shows very warm ridge building in through the central US (Oklahoma north shows temperatures in the range of 13-30 degrees F above average) through central and eastern Canada by this Saturday. West Coast through Alaska to stay warmer than average, but the very high departures are in this central zone.
No indication yet on persistence. But it is a shift we didn’t see much of last year.
As for moisture, Nor Cal looks like it gets slammed. SoCal still waits for more consistent relief.
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Anthropocene
/ December 9, 2014Is it not the case that the massive CH4 release is not required to make the increasing CH4 atmosphere content bad enough news. Take the options:
1)Most of the additional emissions come from human fossil fuel extraction especially natural gas. In order to keep under the 1000Gt limit the strategy is to initially pick the low-hanging fruit e.g. switch electricity production from coal to natural gas. This would (hopefully) give time to tackle the more difficult areas in which to cut emissions e.g. agriculture, air travel. In this scenario this strategy looks like a busted flush. A rough calc. is 10ppb CH4 increase per year = approx 300ppb C02e increase = 10% of current human additions to the atmosphere.
2) CH4 is coming from natural sources. This most probably means that CH4 emissions will increase exponentially throughout the century. This would mean that human emissions have to be reduced even more aggressively than the existing models show. We would struggle to reduce emissions at the same rate as the CH4 emissions increase. Running to standstill.
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 2014Good points. Under the base case scenario from the permafrost researcher survey we end up with 100+ megatons per year of methane from terrestrial permafrost alone. This does not include ocean stores.
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Ed-M
/ December 9, 2014Well according to Dr Hansen (Storms of My Grandchildren, it took just 1 GT of methane per annum for a thousand years with a repeat after a thousand-year intermission (2000 GT total over 3000 years) to cause the PETM extinction.
Just how many GT per year of the same gas are we now throwing up into the atmosphere?
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robertscribbler
/ December 9, 2014The human methane emission is a bit less than 1 GT — at about 220 mt. Total carbon emission exceeds 10 GT, which is more than ten times faster than the PETM. Though the majority is CO2, which is little cause to celebrate due to CO2’s long residence time.
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james cole
/ December 9, 2014Just giving some thought to the recent crash in oil prices. The economic reasons and political reasons are pretty well reported, the climate impacts are not. If this is a play by the biggest oil producers to gain market share and also kill alternative energy, it would seem to be a rational reason for them to drive prices to the basement long enough to kill competition off and leave oil as the last man standing. Weakening global economies, despite what CNBC reports, are one reason, but I think most of this drop is well planned as part of the oil producers to sink the alternative and also shale and tar sands. Kill two birds with one stone. Obviously with rising populations and 3rd world development, low oil prices can’t be a long term prospect outside of a couple years. Cheap oil encourages USE, more use and use in replace of anything more costly. $60 a barrel is low enough to kill many alternatives. My bottom line is this is climate negative, ensuring oil and fossil carbon remain the major players for decades to come. Climate seems to have no advocates with any real power, the mad race to oblivion picks up speed, People say the 21st century is becoming a refutation of the enlightenment, and the scientific method the enlightenment so championed. Given the economic blogs I read, and the people I interact with, I would say the Dark Ages are not nearly so far removed from modern life as many care to believe.
Low oil, means more oil burned. The CO2 is being locked in for steady rise for decades. Honestly, does anyone see a hint that the Powers That Be, the 1%, favor any actions?
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mikkel
/ December 10, 2014I think it will be a real challenge to alt-energy but now oil (and most fossil fuels in general) cost more on a system basis than renewables. I’m not even talking about pricing externalities, merely the community side impact with current pricing.
This is because there are very few fossil fuel players, it is extremely capital intensive, and it is geographically limited. This means that few people are employed and tax base is only affected in a few areas (which of course means it’s prone to sweetheart deal corruption). Focus on renewables/energy efficiency provides many more high valued jobs spread throughout all communities, and the ability to scale in means that the communities can fund deployment themselves. In this sense, it is one of the best tools against wealth inequality.
Whether this view catches on or not is still uncertain, as it requires cooperation across the community, but there is no reason to choose to remain on fossil fuels even from a current cost perspective.
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robertscribbler
/ December 10, 2014I have to say that I wholeheartedly agree with Mikkel on this point.
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robertscribbler
/ December 10, 2014I’d say this is more mixed.
If we first look at what drove consumption down, we can look directly at a combination of energy efficiency, alternative energy, and stagnating economic growth (now in Asia). In most industrial countries, CAFE is rising due to higher and higher fuel efficiency standards together with increasing adoption of alternate fuel vehicles, EVs and hybrids. The net effect of these forces is that demand for oil is not growing.
One other piece is that even at 60 dollars per barrel oil is a bad deal. It’s still more than twice as much as a barrel equivalent of electricity and even ethanol can compete from many markets with oil at that price.
That said, the low prices do encourage both more consumption and increasing dependence. But the situation is now different in that it also damages the high cost producers, resulting in crimps in production and bringing a return to high prices sooner. What we would expect is for oil sands and fracking producers to first shelve new projects and then to cap high cost wells/mining pits that are no longer bringing a profit.
There’s some slack, so these supply chain issues will probably take until mid 2015 to tighten up, at which point, we would expect prices to come back a bit. But with the potential oversupply at 1.5 to 2mbpd if all new projects come online is a big deal, one that may rapidly crush the cash poor unconventional fossil fuel producers very rapidly.
In addition, this crunch is coming at a time when fracking producers are having trouble selling natural gas due to completion from both coal and renewables. Coal has always been low cost. But we have a new situation where residential solar power and ramping efficiencies, especially in lighting costs, is shrinking the size of the power market. So again, fracking producers feel the crunch. And at least half of that crunch comes from renewables/efficiencies.
Back to the oil side, we find scores of EV charging stations cropping up with Tesla, Sunpower, and even some utilities jumping into the game. The net effect now is small, but it represents the start of a sea change in which renewables are a more attractive and economical option than unconventional fossil fuels — especially to buyers in certain markets (luxury and sport).
In this case, renewables which have economic synergies and broader advantages than unconventional fuels are in a stronger position, competitively speaking. So I think it likely that a combination of conventional oil, efficiencies, and renewables are in place to eat unconventional oil and gas’s lunch.
Expect the dirty fuel companies to push backers to create laws penalizing and taxing renewable energy use and to try to generate subsidy support for these most dangerous fuels.
Solar will continue to swim upstream against this political resistance due to falling panel and installation prices, due to the fact that most homeowners can save money now by installing solar power, and due to the fact that power companies will look to shore up their dwindling market share by supplying the growing vehicle to grid market.
Finally, solar is also gradually eating the diesel and oil powered electricity generation market for lunch due to the fact that these fuels are, even now, far more expensive than solar. We see this in Hawaii, other island nations, India, and China where small and medium sized liquid fuel generators are far more common.
This is the first demand destruction driven slide for oil prices. But it is not the last. With so many viable competitors for oil arising — solar, vehicle to grid, advanced biofuels, rapidly increasing efficiencies — the pressure will fall more and more beyond the price margin.
Slow or fast, that’s the trend. Hopefully it will be very fast. We don’t have time for oil and other fossil fuels to make a resurgence. It’s time to start putting these dangerous assets to bed.
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Spike
/ December 10, 2014It’s a great opportunity to wind down subsidies and price carbon – IEA stating this.
http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/12/09/climatechange-lima-iea-idINKBN0JN2KW20141209
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Griffin
/ December 11, 2014James I sure do see your point and I agree with you. I would like to add one more bird to your bag though. Russia is dealt a heavy blow with the falling price of oil. No matter if it is only a temporary drop in price, the timing is bad for Putin and his attempt at a resurgence of Russian influence in Europe. It would be great if Europe would seize the opportunity to increase efficiencies and renewable power generation to rid themselves of the ties to Russian gas and oil. It would be good for them and the planet. But I am sure that Western leaders are more than happy to see a drop in Russian revenues right now. Anyway, I agree with you that it doesn’t help the case for renewables here in our land of rejoice at the pump.
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RWood
/ December 10, 2014Counterintuitive or plain contrary to the threat of resurgence (though I don’t have Prof. Bardi’s timeline in mind):
http://cassandralegacy.blogspot.com/
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 10, 2014Interesting piece regarding the CEO of Unilever in Lima Peru speaking.
The speaker was pointing a finger of blame at one of the most environmentally damaging industries on earth. In doing so, Paul Polman, the CEO of England-and-Netherlands-based Unilever, the world’s second-largest consumer goods conglomerate, was in essence pointing a finger at himself. It was both disarming and, well, breathtaking.
“For those of us in the food sector, like my company, we know that climate change cannot be tackled without a fundamental change in the way that agriculture – the world’s oldest and largest industry – is practiced,” Polman told an audience of several hundred.
http://voices.nationalgeographic.com/2014/12/08/the-saving-face-of-corporate-climate-change/
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Colorado Bob
/ December 10, 2014First El Niño in five years declared by Japan’s weather bureau
Agency becomes first major meteorological bureau to declare weather phenomenon which can bring severe droughts to south-east Asia and Australia
Link
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climatehawk1
/ December 10, 2014Interesting, I’d have to say wait and see. Hard to know whether any meteorological phenomenon works the way it has in the past. MHO.
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Kevin Jones
/ December 10, 2014Word of the Day: Kaputilism
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Kevin Jones
/ December 10, 2014Deja vu, all over again. Chicken Little was right, according to my overhead sky. Bloomberg says “The Markets are Falling”, according to their data. Brent and WTI are in a race to the bottom, approaching the $50’s……Just like Woodstock ’69….Free Love, Free Food, Free Oil & 32.9 cent/gal. gasoline! To go along with Free Beer ! (tomorrow….always tomorrow..) Either The Future has slowed down or The Anthropocene has accelerated. Thank AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM , there are no consequences at this banquet!
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Colorado Bob
/ December 11, 2014No laughing matter: Nitrous oxide rose at end of last ice age
An international team of scientists analyzed air extracted from bubbles enclosed in ancient polar ice from Taylor Glacier in Antarctica, allowing for the reconstruction of the past atmospheric composition. The analysis documented a 30 percent increase in atmospheric nitrous oxide concentrations from 16,000 years ago to 10,000 years ago. This rise in N2O was caused by changes in environmental conditions in the ocean and on land, scientists say, and contributed to the warming at the end of the ice age and the melting of large ice sheets that then existed.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/12/141210131301.htm
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Colorado Bob
/ December 11, 2014Atmospheric N2O was roughly 200 parts per billion at the peak of the ice age about 20,000 years ago then rose to 260 ppb by 10,000 years ago. As of 2014, atmospheric N2Owas measured at about 327 ppb, an increase attributed primarily to agricultural influences.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 11, 2014This entire subject, has made me crazy. I know too much . I am old and sick.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 11, 2014I am so sorry ,I have to leave to you.
I can barely keep my ass clean.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 11, 2014I cleaned asses for years , no one is around to clean mine .
That is way of the world.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 11, 2014Do not out live everyone around you , then you become me.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 11, 2014I am the smartest , nastiest , meanest , Motherfucker you have ever seen. But tonight I am just an old man , all a lone.
I planned to die decades ago ., i really don’t give a rat’s fuzzy butt.
Try
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Wharf Rat
/ December 11, 2014” i really don’t give a rat’s fuzzy butt.”
I get no respect.
Rodney DangerRat
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Colorado Bob
/ December 11, 2014This I am leaving tonight , and don’t rat’s fuzzy butt about any of you, the . entire subject, has made me crazy. I know too much . I am old and sick. And really crazy.
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Mark from New England
/ December 11, 2014Namaste’ Bob. Perhaps there is some(not)thing that transcends all this bullshit here on the physical plane? Even if not, surprises happen, and who knows how the actual future will unfold. I’d rather you not take leave of us in any sense, but I certainly don’t know your situation. Best anyways.
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utoutback
/ December 11, 2014Whatever happens, I am thankful for your presence. “Carry on my wayward son.”
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climatehawk1
/ December 11, 2014If you really are leaving, sorry to hear it. Thanks for your tremendous contribution.
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Jacob
/ December 11, 2014Old or crazy, your contributions here and elsewhere have been invaluable, Bob.
I find the direction our society is going to be true madness, not you.
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Apneaman
/ December 12, 2014It’s not you that’s crazy Bob, it’s 99.99% of the world thats fucked up.
“It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” – Jiddu Krishnamurti
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Griffin
/ December 12, 2014Hopefully you are still checking in on us CB. Hopefully it was just a rough night. You are not alone, you have us that look forward to your contributions every day. Yes, you know too much, but we hope you stick with us for the ride.
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dtlange
/ December 13, 2014Sorry to see you go, CB.
Maybe I will see you on the other side.
DT
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bassman
/ December 11, 2014Met Office has ocean surface temps this Nov at .48 C vs 2013 .42. This makes the ocean surface temps once again the warmest on record for November 2014.
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Tom
/ December 11, 2014Colorado Bob: I hear you, man. Thanks for sharing your perspective and research over the years – I appreciate it. When it’s time to vacate, go in peace, you did what you could. You’ll be missed. What’s on the way pretty much guarantees we’ll be along shortly.
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RWood
/ December 11, 2014“This dewdrop world
is but a dewdrop world
and yet–”
Issa, quoted by Gary Snyder
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wili
/ December 11, 2014Thanks for everything, Bob. I have linked more of your posts to other forums than probably anyone else’s. You’ll be missed here. Do take care.
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Kermit
/ December 11, 2014Colorado Bob, I have read your posts on numerous sites these last few years, and found you a source of sanity. Sanity in a mad world comes at a price. Peace, now and always.
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humortra
/ December 11, 2014A strong message from John Kerry –
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/11/us-climatechange-lima-idUSKBN0JP2GN20141211?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews
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mikkel
/ December 12, 2014I find this message much stronger
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/12/11/3602596/bishops-end-fossil-fuels/
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Griffin
/ December 12, 2014It is good to see this.
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Jay M
/ December 12, 2014Currently getting the moisture fetch to deliver a healthy amount of precipitation to the California project
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Robert In New Orleans
/ December 12, 2014Methane Peak = Dragons Breath? 😦
Unlike Smaug, this dragon is for real and we will all get burned.
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Steve Bloom
/ December 12, 2014Robert, I wanted to remind you about my request in a prior thread for a pointer. Having now had a chance to read the Levitus paper, I also want to ask if we can be sure that the cooling around 60S in the Atlantic is even resulting in downwelling on a scale that might affect Antarctica. They don’t say so. FWIW I notice that there’s much stronger cooling around 50N, which IIRC isn’t associated with increased downwelling.
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dtlange
/ December 13, 2014From this article — that shows why I like plants and get very concerned when things go obviously wrong with this sort of simple botanical process:
“A plant, for example, absorbs extremely energetic sunlight, uses it to build sugars, and ejects infrared light, a much less concentrated form of energy. The overall entropy of the universe increases during photosynthesis as the sunlight dissipates, even as the plant prevents itself from decaying by maintaining an orderly internal structure.”
And something related to our climate talks:
” Eventually, the system arrives at a state of maximum entropy called “thermodynamic equilibrium,” in which energy is uniformly distributed. A cup of coffee and the room it sits in become the same temperature, for example.”
Read more: http://www.quantamagazine.org/20140122-a-new-physics-theory-of-life/#ixzz3LkIx9WSc
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bassman
/ December 13, 2014Robert, NASA LOTI updated Nov .65, other months changed, average for first 11 months of year 66.7 anamoly.
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 13, 2014Dec is pretty close to 1/2 over.
Sao Paolo normal for Dec. ~221 mm rain. They’ve had 39mm so far this December. They are getting roughly 25% of normal so far this month.
Main reservoir down to 7.4% of full pool.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 14, 2014Sorry for the insult the other night to all of you. I do care what happens to all of us. But this mindless drive we have to turn nature into “profits” , and my powerlessness to stop it , just ran over me like a cross town bus .
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Colorado Bob
/ December 14, 2014Why I am so sad and crazy –
Fingers pointed as climate talks deadlock
Accusations flew at deadlocked UN climate talks in Lima on Saturday, as the United States warned that failure to compromise could doom the 22-year-old global forum.
Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2014-12-fingers-climate-deadlock.html#jCp
If governments fail us , the next model under that are warlords.
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utoutback
/ December 14, 2014C Bob –
I understand completely. Someone asked me about my position once and I responded that my default position was melancholy.
But, my actions are do no harm and love thy neighbor (even the ones that drive me crazy).
Nice to see you back here.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 14, 2014utoutback
Thanks , this so hard we have no idea what we are losing . And what poorer world we are passing along.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 14, 2014Man’s nature –
To shoot the last rhino for it’s horn , for profit.
See the passenger pigeon, we killed everyone by the dawn of the 20th century.
When Lewis and Clark when down the Ohio River on their way west, the sky sometimes would become dark for 8 hours because these birds were flying.
Lewis’ dog “Seaman”, jumped out of the boat because tens of thousands of squirrels were swimming the Ohio from the North bank to the South Bank to feed. It was fall, and the water was very low.
This is called generational amnesia , you don’t remember what we have wiped out just before you were born.
Perfect example –
In the 8th grade , I when outside to collect my insect collection , there were dozens of Monarch Butterflies.
Now, there are none of them , or any of the other insects , I needed to make my bug collection in the 8th grade.
If one is 18 , there are no Monarch Butterflies.
generational amnesia
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Spike
/ December 17, 2014Yes the EU was advised by science to reduce fishing quotas 20% – so have increased them 5%.
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Ed-M
/ December 18, 2014Colorado Bob –
Last year or the year before was the last year I saw Monarch Butterflies in New Orleans.
And a certain species of Rhinoceros? Only five left, according to one report.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 14, 2014More tears –
Obama and IMMIGRATION –
Central America drought turning into humanitarian crisis, UN warns
12 December 2014 – A prolonged drought in Central America is turning into a humanitarian crisis for nearly two and a half million people affected by food insecurity in Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador, the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) warned today.
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=49590#.VI0bNntlT6M
Watch the planning for this wave of human pain, and tears .
We will do nothing to keep this wave of human suffering from breaking on our border. Then the right wing will bitch and moan. And call for more guns to make us safe.
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 14, 2014Bob,
Not anyone can disagree with your feeling the other day. We all get that way from time to time. We see the train in the tunnel, but can’t get people to step off the tracks. And it is really not that complicated, simple cause and effect. We’re the audience for a slow motion genocide of epic proportions, and we see it coming. We tell others who simply ignore the warning for profit, because they can’t be bothered or inconvenienced.
They will be forced to acknowledge what is occurring eventually, hopefully not too late to mitigate it somewhat.
We all throw our hands in the air and say “fuckit” from time to time.
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Ouse M.D.
/ December 14, 2014Another heatwave hitting the Arctic
http://cci-reanalyzer.org/DailySummary/
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Spike
/ December 14, 2014The impact of rising sea level on the UK.
http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/waters-edge-the-crisis-of-rising-sea-levels/
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Griffin
/ December 14, 2014That is a great series, nicely done.
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Bill H.
/ December 14, 2014Spike, the graphic showing tide gauge readings round the world is particularly useful for countering the claims of the “distinguished professor” and Global Warming Policy Foundation denizen Nils Axel Moerner. This character claims that tide gauge data which he has “personally” recorded indicate that there is no rise in global sea level.
As the graphic shows the sea level is indeed falling along the coastline of his country, Sweden, so the “personal” findings are indeed explained and the gross cherry picking revealed.
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Ouse M.D.
/ December 14, 2014Anybody else noticing the complete and total disappearance of “Weather” header from some of the major news websites? CNN, FOX
We all should live- and of course produce, work an buy, buy, buy- in the Matrix, according to them
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Griffin
/ December 14, 2014In America, the major news outlets on tv seem to be content to leave the weather to the Weather Channel. It works out nice because the Weather Channel is such an absolute joke, such a completely overblown farce of any reasonable information, that most folks just tune it right out. Weather hype has become the best way to get the average person to ignore the fact that there are serious changes to the weather that have already taken place. When there are headlines such as “Monster Storm”, for a system that should be categorized as no more than “some drought relief” for California, then there is the inevitable snap-back of ridicule in social circles. This behavior then plays directly into the hands of those who would rather the general public remain completely ignorant of what is really going on in the big picture. Make the public think it’s a joke and they will tune it right out.
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Mark from New England
/ December 14, 2014Well said.
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anthropocene
/ December 16, 2014Yes good point. In the UK this job is done by such “newspapers” as the Express and Daily Mail. Coincidence that the extreme weather mongers are climate change denialists?
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climatehawk1
/ December 16, 2014This may be mitigated by folks getting their weather info online. That is where I get mine–that and the morning paper. Online info at Weather Underground is much more detailed and accessible as needed.
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Anthropocene
/ December 17, 2014Yes but that brings even more scary thoughts. If people access weather online then in effect we’ve commoditized extreme weather. I wonder how much their traffic goes up each time their’s a polar vortex.How do you increase your profits? increase production or increase abstraction of the resource. It is in Weather Undergrounds interest for the weather to become more weird, Might explain a lot.
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climatehawk1
/ December 17, 2014Not sure I really see the connection between various methods of accessing weather info and commoditizing it. Why is online more driven by advertising than every other method? And why is TV news dropping it if it is such a draw? TV news shows are certainly not averse to sensationalism.
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Anthropocene
/ December 23, 2014A slightly different angle on the story but Kathryn Miles on http://www.ecoshock.info raises some interesting points on ‘democratisation’ of meteorology. Glad I live in the UK where we have (in the main) the ‘national’ systems model with the Met Office and BBC. Anybody on here know if TTIP impacts meteorology and weather forecasting?
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Tom
/ December 14, 2014CO Bob: good to see you back – completely understandable reaction to our dying world.
http://news.yahoo.com/un-climate-talks-peru-seem-headed-overtime-220749283.html
Deal salvaged at UN climate talks in Peru
LIMA, Peru (AP) — Climate negotiators salvaged a compromise deal in Lima early Sunday that sets the stage for a global pact in Paris next year, but rejected a rigorous review of the greenhouse gas emissions limits they plan.
[read the rest: basically it’s watered down, kicking the can down the road again]
Most of us already know there’s no way out – no political solution, no change to our delusional behavior, and certainly no stopping the civilization juggernaut from it’s current fall off the cliff of reality.
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joni
/ December 14, 2014http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/dec/14/lima-climate-change-talks-reach-agreement
“Campaigners said the plan was far too weak to limit warming to the internationally agreed limit of 2C above pre-industrial levels, or to protect poor countries from climate change.”
This deal would be comparable to the one that the bridge crew and captain of the Titanic reached when they noticed that there was an iceberg in their way….. Except for the fact that the crew of the Titanic reacted to the threat immediately after becoming aware of it.
The international community has had access to lots of good science done on the climate for nearly 40 years now, 20 climate summits, 5 assesment reports with their message only becoming more dire with each iteration. Yet, no real action is happening because developed and then developing countries take turns obstructing the decision making process and watering down the findings of the scientists, only to agree to meaningless “mays” and “mights” at the last minute so they can pat themselves on the back before they go home.
This “agreement” reached in Lima has ensured COP21 will be a COP15 redux at best.
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Dave Person
/ December 14, 2014Hi,
With regard to the Lima conference, science provides the most reliable knowledge of what is, whereas, politics, always transacted through the filters of emotion, perception, culture, ideology, and religion, is the expression of what we wish to believe. In a world in which a growing human foot print determines what is, and increasingly constrains the achievement of what we wish, science and politics will become more disconnected. I foresee a very rough future for climate and ecological scientists unless we can bridge that gap.
dave
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 14, 2014Alto Tiete reservoir is not reporting anything today (it s/b at 4.1% per the trend over the past few months). It may be an equipment issue, we’ll see in the next few days if it reports again. If it has in fact stopped, then that one is tapped dry.
Canteriera is at 7.3%, roughly 45 days of water left.
http://www2.sabesp.com.br/mananciais/DivulgacaoSiteSabesp.aspx
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 14, 2014Regional trends in the US (per UK dailymail).
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2867712/Warmer-wetter-Maps-reveal-global-warming-affect-winter-temperatures-America.html
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utoutback
/ December 14, 2014Humans being tribal in nature seem to always work towards Self Interest, meaning me, my family, my community, my country. The Nation-state is a disaster. Climate has no borders, let that guy on the other side of the planet suffer and eventually the suffering comes to your doorstep. So, these international (thus by definition competing groups of humans from various geographical and socio-political spaces) become forums for trying to get the best deal I can for me and mine.
THERE IS NO BEST DEAL! There is only survival or collapse.
Yikes!
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 14, 2014I think that the order of self, family,community (tribe), nation breaks down in the reverse order as things go awry.
First to go is nation, then large community (tribe), small community (sub tribe), family, then self.
I suspect we are seeing this in action already in Somalia, Middle East, various African countries. Basically those less wealthy, as wealth delays the onset of such a deconstruction via social controls (military, police, rule of law).
As nations lose wealth (thus social controls are underfunded, thus decay to self interest) and reach a threshold, they begin to deconstruct into large communities(tribes), small communities (sub tribes), family, close family, self.
Wildcard triggers being the 3 true stores of wealth, water, food, shelter.
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Spike
/ December 14, 2014The drought continues to impoverish the people of Central America
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=49590#.VI3ov9kgGc0
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 15, 2014Amazing that this has no value for the news. I guess one can push more advertising income by sensationalizing a Kardashian ass. Oh wait, news… we haven’t had that since Walter Cronkite & Dan Rather.
Empathy apathy?
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Spike
/ December 15, 2014I know – the news has a well known prosperity bias in the UK, and I guess it’s the same over the pond.
Guardian to its credit covers it, sorry about link above which takes ages
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/dec/12/drought-central-america-un-food-insecurity
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RWood
/ December 15, 2014Might be of some interest here. The second part and comments especially:
http://cassandralegacy.blogspot.com/
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Griffin
/ December 15, 2014It sure can be difficult to talk to folks that have no clue. The seriousness of the subject can very easily cause them to dismiss it outright. They simply cannot accept that you are suggesting that things must change or very bad results are locked in..
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 15, 2014Northern White Rhino dies, that leaves a sum total of 5 left in the world.
http://newsok.com/northern-white-rhino-dies-5-left-worldwide/article/5376135
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RWood
/ December 15, 2014Another take on what we are facing and what we might do:
http://wagingnonviolence.org/feature/harvest-learning-leave-planet-gracefully/
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joni
/ December 15, 2014http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/dec/15/greenland-ice-melt-underestimated-study-says
“One key effect the lakes have, once they reach a critical size, is to drain through fractures in the ice to reach the ice sheet base. Like a lubricant, the lake water causes the melting ice to slide more rapidly into the ocean.
The lakes also have a direct impact on ice sheet melting because, being darker than ice, they absorb more of the sun’s heat.
Lead researcher Dr Amber Leeson, from the University of Leeds’ School of Earth and Environment, said: “Supraglacial lakes can increase the speed at which the ice sheet melts and flows, and our research shows that by 2060 the area of Greenland covered by them will double.
“When you pour pancake batter into a pan, if it rushes quickly to the edges of the pan, you end up with a thin pancake. It’s similar to what happens with ice sheets: the faster it flows, the thinner it will be.
“When the ice sheet is thinner, it is at a slightly lower elevation and at the mercy of warmer air temperatures than it would have been if it were thicker, increasing the size of the melt zone around the edge of the ice sheet.”
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climatehawk1
/ December 15, 2014Thanks, tweet scheduled on this.
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Griffin
/ December 16, 2014Similar article here, what is notable is the acknowledgement that the current models may very well underestimate the volume of ice loss.
http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/hidden-movements-of-greenland-ice-sheet-runoff-revealed/#.VI973SvF9iZ
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todaysguestis
/ December 15, 2014Arctic sea ice volume holds up in 2014
“What we see is the volume going down and down, but then, because of a relatively cool summer, coming back up to form a new high stand,” said Rachel Tilling from the UK’s Nerc Centre for Polar Observation and Modelling (CPOM) at University College London (UCL).
What Tilling and colleagues see in the data is a very strong link between autumn thickness and the degree of melting in a year.
“You might think, for example, that wind conditions would be important because they can pile the ice up and make it less susceptible to melting, while at the same time exposing more water to freeze,” the University College London researcher explained.
“But we’ve looked at this and other factors, and by far the highest correlation is with temperature-driven melting.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-30399079
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Griffin
/ December 16, 20147,500 cu km being classified as “holding up” is a bit like saying that a few compartments remaining watertight as the ship goes down can be called “maintaining structural integrity”. We should commend them on the optimism though!
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climatehawk1
/ December 16, 2014Yes, not a particularly good example of science communication. “High stand” sounds like some sort of permanent uptick.
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climatehawk1
/ December 15, 2014” Global coal use is on an upwards march despite calls to halt fossil fuels demand at a UN climate summit in Peru and will hit a record 9bn tonnes by 2019, according to the International Energy Agency.”
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/dec/15/coal-demand-set-to-break-9bn-tonne-barrier-this-decade
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dtlange
/ December 16, 2014One has to wonder how much reality religion can grasp… Me, I’ve been moaning about all the cars and tailpipes in the parking lots surrounding our churches — all those emissions in a quest for moral validity. But go to your average school or medical center, and you will see the same. That’s us– homo saps with big brain pans and opposable thumbs but still can’t grasp how very serious, and unforgiving, reality really is.
Hazy road to Mecca: Severe air pollution spikes during yearly pilgrimage
Dangerously high levels of air pollutants are being released in Mecca during the hajj, the annual holy pilgrimage in which millions of Muslims on foot and in vehicles converge on the Saudi Arabian city, according to findings reported today at the American Geophysical Union meeting in San Francisco.
“Hajj is like nothing else on the planet. You have 3 to 4 million people – a whole good-sized city – coming into an already existing city,” said Isobel Simpson, a UC Irvine research chemist in the Nobel Prize-winning Rowland-Blake atmospheric chemistry laboratory. “The problem is that this intensifies the pollution that already exists. We measured among the highest concentrations our group has ever measured in urban areas – and we’ve studied 75 cities around the world in the past two decades.”
http://phys.org/news/2014-12-hazy-road-mecca-severe-air.html
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Griffin
/ December 16, 2014“Little me. I can have no impact on this world”, said the tiny raindrop in the storm that grew to epic proportions.
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Griffin
/ December 16, 2014Every traveler is convinced that they are not the problem I guess. So they all go.
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dtlange
/ December 16, 2014We Could See More And More ‘Hot Droughts’ Like California’s
Last week, California’s dry spell got a temporary reprieve thanks to an onslaught of Pacific storms. But the storms won’t be enough to turn back the state’s drought — one that, researchers say, is the region’s worst in the last 1,200 years.
… To compare the current drought’s severity to that of previous ones, University of Minnesota dendrochronologist Daniel Griffin and his colleague Kevin Anchukaitis, a paleoclimatologist at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, collected tree rings from California blue oaks. “These trees have an exquisite relationship to moisture — when there’s lots of precipitation, they put on a fat ring,” Griffin said. They calibrated those measurements with temperature and precipitation records from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and added data from the North American Drought Atlas, a compilation of drought records constructed from tree ring chronologies over the past 2,000 years.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/we-could-see-more-and-more-hot-droughts-like-californias/
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Colorado Bob
/ December 16, 2014Europe’s worst ever sea bird disaster caused by last winter’s storms
Last winter’s storms saw 50,000 dead sea birds including puffins, guillemots and razorbills wash ashore, researchers say
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/weather/11291281/Europes-worst-ever-sea-bird-disaster-caused-by-last-winters-storms.html
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Colorado Bob
/ December 16, 2014Greenhouse emissions similar to today’s may have triggered massive temperature rise in Earth’s past
About 55.5 million years ago, a burst of carbon dioxide raised Earth’s temperature 5°C to 8°C, which had major impacts on numerous species of plants and wildlife. Scientists analyzing ancient soil samples now say a previous burst of the greenhouse gas preceded this event, known as the Paleocene-Eocene thermal maximum (PETM), and probably triggered it. Moreover, they believe humans are pumping similar levels of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere right now, raising concerns that our own emissions may also destabilize Earth’s climate, triggering the planet to emit devastating bursts of carbon in the future.
The paper implies that even if we stopped emitting carbon dioxide right now, our descendants might still face huge temperature rises, says paleoclimatologist Gabriel Bowen of the University of Utah in Salt Lake City, the lead author of the new research. “It is a possibility,” he says, “and it’s a scary one.”
AAAS
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Mark from New England
/ December 16, 2014Good find Bob. Looks like we’re setting off a PETM event all over again…
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climatehawk1
/ December 16, 2014Thanks, tweet scheduled on this. I like that it says the planet “quickly returned to normal” when speaking of the 2,000 to 3,000 years after the first pulse. Not hard to see why people have difficulty coming to grips with the scale of what is happening.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 16, 2014Before and After Photographs Show the Impact of Global Warming on Greenland’s Glaciers
By analyzing old photographs from the early 1900s and comparing them with contemporary ones, researchers have mapped the retreat of some Greenland glaciers.
In the example above, the images show changes to a glacier in the vicinity of the Sukkertoppen ice cap in southwest Greenland. By summer 2013 (top), the glacier had retreated by about 3 kilometers (less than two miles) since summer 1935 (bottom), according to researcher Anders Bjørk of the Natural History Museum of Denmark. Both photographs were acquired from aircraft, most recently in an effort by Bjork and colleagues to re-photograph the sites of Greenland’s fast-changing glaciers.
The historic photographs studied by Bjørk’s team showed a remarkably quick retreat between 1900 and 1930—more rapid than in the past 15 years. The Little Ice Age had lost its grip on the region and temperatures climbed. As the Arctic climate warms again, the information from historic photographs should help researchers understand how quickly glaciers can react to temperature changes.
Bjørk presented the historic photos and analysis alongside other new insights about Greenland that were unveiled on December 15, 2014, at the American Geophysical Union meeting in San Francisco.
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todaysguestis
/ December 16, 2014Study: Hot temperatures rising faster than cold temperatures over last 30 years
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/12/11/study-hot-temperatures-rising-faster-than-cold-temperatures-over-last-30-years/
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Colorado Bob
/ December 16, 2014Hidden Movements of Greenland Ice Sheet, Runoff Revealed
For years NASA has tracked changes in the massive Greenland Ice Sheet. This week scientists using NASA data released the most detailed picture ever of how the ice sheet moves toward the sea and new insights into the hidden plumbing of melt water flowing under the snowy surface.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 16, 2014This animation (from March 2014) portrays the changes occurring in the surface elevation of the Greenland Ice Sheet since 2003 in three drainage areas: the southeast, the northeast and the Jakobshavn regions. In each region, the time advances to show the accumulated change in elevation, 2003-2012.
Image Credit:
NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center
Download video in HD formats from NASA Goddard’s Scientific Visualization Studio
http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/hidden-movements-of-greenland-ice-sheet-runoff-revealed/#.VJA3OntlT6N
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Colorado Bob
/ December 16, 2014Global Warming Fact: More than Half of All Industrial CO2 Pollution Has Been Emitted Since 1988
By the end of this year, more than half of all industrial emissions of carbon dioxide since the dawn of the Industrial Revolution will have been released since 1988 — the year it became widely known that these emissions are warming the climate.
I recently learned this startling fact from my colleague Richard Heede at the Climate Accountability Institute. Heede drew upon historic estimates of annual global carbon emissions from fossil fuel burning and cement manufacturing by the U.S. Department of Energy’s Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center (CDIAC) and the 2014 annual update on the global carbon budget and trends published by the Global Carbon Project (GCP), an international scientific research consortium studying the global carbon cycle.
The GCP estimates that in 2014, we will release a record 37 gigatons (GT) of carbon dioxide to the atmosphere from burning coal, oil, and natural gas, and manufacturing cement. That’s a 2.5 percent increase over emissions in 2013, itself a record year. This brings the total industrial carbon dioxide emissions since 1751 to an estimated 1480 Gt by the end of this year. And, remarkably, more than half of these emissions, 743 Gt, or 50.2 percent, have released just since 1988.
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Mark from New England
/ December 16, 20141988 – coincidentally the very year Dr. Hansen was before Congress testifying about global warming. So since his warning we’ve double-downed on the warming.
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todaysguestis
/ December 16, 2014“NET REGIONAL METHANE SINK in High Arctic soils of northeast Greenland. We conclude that the ice-free area of northeast Greenland acts as a net sink of atmospheric methane, and suggest that this sink will probably be enhanced in a future warmer climate.”
http://cenperm.ku.dk/news/nature-geoscience-publication/
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Kevin Jones
/ December 16, 2014Hey, Colorado Bob. re: half since ’88. 1750-1988 about 275ppm to 350ppm atmospheric CO2. +75ppm. 1989-2014 about 351-399ppm atmospheric CO2 increase. About + 50. Where is the other 25 (to make up half of all since ’88)? Apparently gone to sea and terrestrial increased uptake, which I’m sure we agree, cannot continue.
Click to access Storms_Fig16.pdf
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Kevin Jones
/ December 16, 2014P.S. You’re a damned fine man Colorado Bob. Try to join the rest of us, now and then, in knowing this!
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Kevin Jones
/ December 16, 2014If my point is muddy, it is this: as Global CO2 emissions have soared since 1960, the airborne fraction (on a 7 year mean ) has declined from 58% to 48%. (roughly) The highly unlikely continuation of this trend causes me to wonder how much longer before sinks are overwhelmed by myriad of probabilities….ocean heating & stratification….increased forest fires & etc; and on and on.
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Kevin Jones
/ December 16, 2014Yes, Mark 1988. The last time we’ve seen 350-the point of no return if we don’t return….Hey, all that’s required is to remove 106 billion tons of C from Earth’s atmosphere! (instead of adding 10+/yr as is current) [ 1ppm CO2= 2.12 billion tons C according to NOAA ]
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Kevin Jones
/ December 16, 2014Had all of that 1480 Gt of CO2 stayed in the air instead of roughly half being taken up by unlikely to last sinks we would be at about 535 ppm…..
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Kevin Jones
/ December 16, 2014Our current 10 billion tons of the C (in CO2)/yr being equal to 36.7 billion tons CO2/yr……
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Kevin Jones
/ December 16, 2014Should have said, two above, instead of adding 10+/yr of which 4.8 billion tons C / year remains…. (currently)
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dtlange
/ December 16, 2014And, from the shallow end of the gene pool:
‘The new climate denialism: More carbon dioxide is a good thing’
For years, the fossil-fuel industries have been telling us that global warming is a hoax based on junk science.
But now these industries are floating an intriguing new argument: They’re admitting that human use of coal, oil and gas is causing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere to rise — but they’re saying this is a good thing. We need more CO2 in our lives, not less.
“CO2 is basically plant food, and the more CO2 in the environment the better plants do,” proclaimed Roger Bezdek, a consultant to energy companies, at an event hosted Monday by the United States Energy Association, an industry trade group.
The session, at the Ronald Reagan Building in downtown Washington, was devoted to demonstrating that “CO2 benefits clearly outweigh any hypothesized costs.” And though Bezdek is an economist, not a scientist, he played one on Monday — showing a PowerPoint presentation that documented a tree growing faster when exposed to more carbon dioxide.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-the-new-climate-denialism-carbon-dioxide-is-good-for-you/2014/12/15/beaafc72-8499-11e4-b9b7-b8632ae73d25_story.html
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Apneaman
/ December 17, 2014I wonder how long until Americans will be too terrified to speak out on climate change or any social justice issue. Anyone can be labeled a terrorist for anything at any time. Lawyered up language.
About Half See CIA Interrogation Methods as Justified
http://www.people-press.org/2014/12/15/about-half-see-cia-interrogation-methods-as-justified/
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RWood
/ December 17, 2014Perhaps, consider yourself (and many others) propagandized:
(from JackRabbit at Naked Capitalism:)
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2014/12/torture-and-exceptionalism.html#c6a00d8341c640e53ef01b8d0aad934970c
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Apneaman
/ December 17, 2014All Americans are propagandized. I wasn’t born and raised in a country that forces small children to chant allegiance to the state every morning. More language lawyering from white Americans to justify torture. Who cares about polling flaws, you do it. “We’ll put a boot in your ass it’s the American way.” The cheering was deafening after the assignation of Osama Bin Laden; the national orgasm. Your country is sick.
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Jacob
/ December 17, 2014@Apneaman
You’re right the United States is sick. I’d say terminally ill. We are/have been subjected to intense propaganda, going back (conservatively) 15 decades. Doesn’t mean all Americans believe the propaganda, just (unfortunately) not enough of us have critical thinking skills to see through the B.S.
Thank you for generalizing “white” America, it’s more about money than skin color. Still a dangerous societal environment, but it’s not about your ethnic heritage, so much as it is your socio-economic status. I’m a multi-generational American of European descent (aka “white”) and my family has always been worker drones.
Republicans disgust me, so this non-apologetic attitude they have towards American use of torture is no surprise. I was never under the impression we were saints, an un-objective view of our domestic history tells the story of us.
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wili
/ December 19, 2014Good catch, but that particular dodge is not particularly new nor very intriguing. It’s old, tired, and stupid. https://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-plant-food.htm
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humortra
/ December 16, 2014On a related subject –
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/16/us-space-mars-idUSKBN0JU2JX20141216
“NASA rover finds organic molecules, methane gas on Mars”
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Colorado Bob
/ December 16, 2014Ocean acidification a culprit in commercial shellfish hatcheries’ failures
The mortality of larval Pacific oysters in Northwest hatcheries has been linked to ocean acidification. Yet the rate of increase in carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and the decrease of pH in near-shore waters have been questioned as being severe enough to cause the die-offs.
Now, a new study of Pacific oyster and Mediterranean mussel larvae found that the earliest larval stages are sensitive to saturation state, rather than carbon dioxide (CO2) or pH (acidity) per se.
Saturation state is a measure of how corrosive seawater is to the calcium carbonate shells made by bivalve larvae, and how easy it is for larvae to produce their shells. A lower saturation rate is associated with more corrosive seawater.
Increasing CO2 lowers saturation state, the researchers say, and saturation state is very sensitive to CO2.
Read more at: Link
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Colorado Bob
/ December 16, 2014Glacier beds can get slipperier at higher sliding speeds
Data collected by the researchers show that resistance to glacier sliding – the drag that the bed exerts on the ice – can decrease in response to increasing sliding speed. This decrease in drag with increasing speed, although predicted by some theoreticians a long as 45 years ago, is the opposite of what is usually assumed in mathematical models of the flow of ice sheets.
Read more at: Link
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Spike
/ December 17, 2014China’s glaciers have retreated by 18 per cent over the past half century, a comprehensive survey has found, as some experts warn of “chain effects” that could have an impact on water supplies in the country’s western regions.
An average of 244 sq km of glacial ice had disappeared every year since the late 1950s, according to the Chinese Academy of Sciences, which released its second major survey of the nation’s glaciers at the weekend, Xinhua reported.
http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1662844/chinas-glaciers-shrink-fifth-1950s
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Colorado Bob
/ December 17, 2014Major cities in the Bay Area are experiencing record rainfall during the first half of December, the National Weather Service said Tuesday.
“It’s the wettest start ever for December,” said National Weather Service meteorologist Charles Bell.
San Francisco has seen more than 9.14 inches of rain through early this morning. The previous record of 7.10 inches was set in 1889. Data go back as far as 1849, Bell said.
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Mark from New England
/ December 17, 2014Yep, one extreme to the other. A taste of things to come…
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Wharf Rat
/ December 17, 2014Rat (in the hills of Mendocino Co) had 25 inches thru last Wed, according to his weekly paper, about another 7 inches from Wed noon thru 8 PM last night, plus about another 2 inches since then.
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joni
/ December 17, 2014http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2014/12/16/the-real-outcome-of-global-warming-talks-in-lima-a-future-for-coal/
The Real Outcome of Global Warming Talks in Lima: A Future for Coal
“The shift of a single word—from a “shall” to a “may”—means the world will very likely continue to burn lots of coal. Instead of being required to provide “quantifiable information” about their greenhouse-gas emissions, countries may choose whether or not to include those statistics in their pledges instead, known in the jargon as “intended nationally determined contributions.” These pledges or INDCs are promises that come in a variety of flavors – not just strict pollution cuts like those from the E.U. nations, but also softer targets, such as reducing the amount of energy used to produce a single widget in India while producing more widgets overall (a so-called “carbon intensity” goal).
China and India led the charge against any monitoring or verification of such pledges. Worse, the Chinese and Indian negotiators do not appear to want INDCs to be comparable with each other. In other words, the pledges “may” prove mutually inscrutable.”
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RWood
/ December 17, 2014Another “might be of interest”
http://boingboing.net/2013/05/14/scatter-adapt-and-remember.html
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Apneaman
/ December 17, 2014Remember, plant proteins start to denature a 4degrees C above baseline. I doubt any crops will grow at 6C and then there are wet bulb temp issues. We could live underground eating bugs, but we will probably loose our vision after a time and our eyes will just be vestigial organs. Evolution is awesome.
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mikkel
/ December 18, 2014I don’t understand how plants can denature @ 4C when temps have been way above that in the past? I mean, I can understand how shellfish can adapt with enough time to low pH, but denaturing is more of a physical law than adaptive trait.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 17, 20142014 warmest year in Europe since 1500s
Climate change is very likely to have helped make 2014 Europe’s warmest year since the 1500s, scientists have found.
In a move that could eventually pave the way for law suits against companies burning fossil fuels, researchers at Oxford university found global warming had increased the risk of such a record being set by at least a factor of 10.
Other teams working independently in The Netherlands and Australia said the odds had been boosted by 35 to 80 times.
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Phil
/ December 17, 2014JISAO PDO index for November came in at 1.72
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Colorado Bob
/ December 18, 2014Europe’s record hot year made at least 35 times more likely by climate change, say scientists
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/dec/17/europes-record-hot-year-made-35-times-more-likely-climate-change
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Colorado Bob
/ December 18, 2014Less olives
Less grapes
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Colorado Bob
/ December 18, 2014Watch the price of olive oil .
Less olives
Less grapes
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Colorado Bob
/ December 18, 2014Watch everything . Every bit every sign every thing.
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RWood
/ December 18, 2014Maybe even a bit for those of us not pure and holy:
Annie Dillard, from Pilgrim at Tinker Creek, quoting Martin Buber:
‘When you walk across the fields with your mind pure and holy, then from all the stones, and all growing things, and all animals, the sparks of their soul come out and cling to you, and then they are purified and become a holy fire in you.’
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Colorado Bob
/ December 18, 2014What Spain Can Teach Texas About Solar Energy
https://stateimpact.npr.org/texas/2014/12/17/what-spain-can-teach-texas-about-solar-energy/
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Tom
/ December 18, 2014CO Bob: I’ve recently seen articles warning that coffee, chocolate and beef will all rise substantially next year. Here come the food shortages . . .
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Mark from New England
/ December 18, 2014Coffee, chocolate and beef? How will America in particular run without them? 😉
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 19, 2014Yesterdays released NOAA arctic report card.
Rising air and sea temperatures continue to trigger changes in the Arctic
Arctic is warming at twice the rate of anywhere else on Earth
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2014/20141217_arctic_report_card_2014.html
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dtlange
/ December 20, 2014Hi, Andy.
Arctic Report Card 2014 (2 plus MIN)
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RWood
/ December 19, 2014Lima leavings:
“China and India, the two biggest polluters in the South, say they will need to burn millions of tonnes of coal in the coming years so they can develop their economies.”
http://dissidentvoice.org/2014/12/world-climate-deal-further-away-following-disappointing-peru-talks/#more-56708
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RWood
/ December 19, 2014More viewing of our stewing:
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/nasa-satellite-most-detailed-view-co2-18459
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RWood
/ December 20, 2014To amend the above:
According to deputy project science Annmarie Eldering, previous CO2-monitoring satellites were returning just 1-2 percent of the data that OCO-2 is sending back to Earth.
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South America and parts of Africa also show high CO2 levels, which scientists said is most likely due to burning fields and forest to clear them for agriculture.
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Eldering said the initial round of data would be available to the public on December 30 and the full set of CO2 data would likely be available in March for scientists and public to download and explore.
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/nasa-satellite-most-detailed-view-co2-18459
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Colorado Bob
/ December 19, 2014Clearing tropical rainforests distorts Earth’s wind and water systems, packs climate wallop beyond carbon
“Tropical deforestation delivers a double whammy to the climate — and to farmers,” said Deborah Lawrence, Professor of Environmental Sciences at the University of Virginia, the study’s lead author. “Most people know that climate change is a dangerous global problem, and that it’s caused by pumping carbon into the atmosphere. But it turns out that removing forests alters moisture and air flow, leading to changes — from fluctuating rainfall patterns to rises in temperatures — that are just as hazardous, and happen right away. The impacts go beyond the tropics — the United Kingdom and Hawaii could see an increase in rainfall while the US Midwest and Southern France could see a decline.”
The report presents compelling evidence that tropical deforestation is already affecting local and regional climates. Meteorological data, for example, show that in Thailand, the beginning of the dry season is experiencing less rainfall due to deforestation. And in parts of the Amazon, the world’s largest stretch of rainforest, the timing of once-predictable rainfall has shifted due to deforestation. In deforested regions, the wet season is delayed by two weeks; in forested regions, there are no changes.
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todaysguestis
/ December 20, 2014Major coral bleaching in Pacific may become worst die-off in 20 years, say experts
This does not augur well for the future of the world’s reefs under climate change.
“The real problem is that recovery from a major bleaching event can take decades and these events keep coming back every 10 years or less… [Reefs] just don’t have time to recover,” said Eakin.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/dec/19/major-coral-bleaching-pacific-may-worst-20-years
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Colorado Bob
/ December 20, 2014Most of Alaska’s Permafrost Could Melt This Century
SAN FRANCISCO — The permafrost in some of Alaska’s most iconic national parks could all but disappear this century, new research suggests.
Right now, half of the ground in Denali National Park’s is frozen year-round, but if global warming continues at the current pace, just 1 percent of this land could remain permafrost by the year 2100, according to new research presented here at the annual meeting of the American Geophysical Union.
http://news.yahoo.com/most-alaskas-permafrost-could-melt-century-153452426.html
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Colorado Bob
/ December 20, 2014Old Ship Records to Shed Light on Arctic Ice Loss
Wood says these observations lengthen the timeline of data scientists can use to create models. That, in turn, will lead to more accurate future predictions. The project began two years ago and Wood says it will take time for the data to be fully incorporated into future models. He says the Arctic described 140 years ago bears little resemblance to the Arctic of today.
“So the information in the logbooks, the descriptions and the things that they actually measure to me don’t look like what I see when I travel to the Arctic every year. The ice is thicker, the ridges are higher, the keels are deeper, the ice is aground in places that are almost unbelievably deep, you know, well over a hundred feet deep, and those things we just don’t see any more. And also the ice is thick and in places that it just doesn’t exist anymore,” Wood stated.
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Kevin Jones
/ December 20, 2014Thanks, CB. Sure makes me wonder what the min/max annual sea ice volume was 140 years ago vs. today. For that matter,that of the entire northern hemisphere cryosphere: sea ice, glaciers, permafrost…..
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Griffin
/ December 20, 2014I bet Jack London would have picked a different location to write about if he was thinking of a novel today.
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 20, 2014Main water supply for Sao Paolo is now at 6.7%
Only 57mm rain this month. Normal for December is ~220mm.
Alto Tiete now shows 10.3% with 67 mm rainfall in December. 192 mm is normal for the month there. They may have transferred water into Alto Teite, as it stopped registering last week when it got below 4%.
Looks like a repeat of last year. Get ready for the water war with Rio this year.
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 20, 2014Latest news bit I could find. It does look like Tiete got a transfer from it’s strategic reserve (last shot). 4.5 million rely on Tiete. The issue is moving beyonf water for consumption and now is beginning to include hydro power reductions.
http://www.economist.com/news/americas/21636782-government-responded-late-drought-brazils-industrial-heartland-reservoir-hogs
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 20, 2014Great quote from this article.
“The first thing that the rain washes away”, goes a saying from Brazil’s semi-arid north-east, “is memory of a drought.”
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dtlange
/ December 21, 2014Houston
Oil patch gas flaring continues to go up
SAN ANTONIO–Gas flares in the Eagle Ford Shale burned more than 20 billion cubic feet of natural gas and released tons of pollutants into the air in the first seven months of 2014 – exceeding the total waste and pollution for the entire year of 2012.
New records analyzed by the San Antonio Express-News show that flaring in the oil patch has continued to increase in the Eagle Ford, an upward trend first revealed in a yearlong San Antonio Express-News investigation called Up in Flames that was published in August.
The Express-News obtained new flaring data from the Railroad Commission of Texas, which oversees the oil and gas industry. The updated database shows that from January to July, energy companies flared and wasted enough natural gas to fuel CPS Energy’s 800 megawatt Rio Nogales power plant during the same seven-month period.
The newspaper also found some of the top sources of flaring in 2014 lacked state-mandated permits to flare natural gas.
http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Oil-patch-gas-flaring-continues-to-go-up-5971250.php
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Note: “…Railroad Commission of Texas, which oversees the oil and gas industry.”
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Ouse M.D.
/ December 21, 2014Urals, Russia, Rezh, Sverdlovsk
https://www.google.hu/maps/place/Rezh,+Sverdlovskaya+oblast‘,+Oroszorsz%C3%A1g/@57.3644336,61.3871285,3z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x43c0593fe92f7e4b:0x24948dd2bd4403e
Could this have been a methane explosion?
I’m wondering if the recent “bbom” hysteria all over the U.S. could also be the awakening sleeping dragon.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 21, 2014Could this have been a methane explosion?
Whatever it was , it has a high “creepy factor”.
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Jacob
/ December 21, 2014Barring it being a meteor I’d bet this was a methane explosion, CB. Hopefully someone will check out the scene when the weather permits, and we’ll see if there is a hole like those we saw last summer.
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Mark from New England
/ December 21, 2014Probably a large bolide (meteor) exploding in the upper atmosphere, similar to what happened somewhere else in Russia a few years ago. It does look eerily like an atomic explosion, but if it was, I think we’d be hearing about it on the news. At least, one hopes.
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climatehawk1
/ December 21, 2014The few films I’ve seen of atomic explosions suggest that the bright light would last quite a bit longer if it reached the level shown here.
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Kevin Jones
/ December 21, 2014More eyes in NE North America fixating upon the X-mas Eve Santa Bomb! 🙂
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Colorado Bob
/ December 21, 2014Losing Paradise
Climate change is changing Mount Rainier
If the scientists are right, the end is near for a Northwest treasure — at least as we know it.
Global warming is melting Mount Rainier’s glaciers at six times the historic rate.
For years now, the melting has sent floods of water and rock pounding down the mountain, filling up rivers, killing old-growth forests and endangering historic national park buildings.
The glacial outbursts also are tearing up the roads that provide access to the park’s wonders, testing the National Park Service mission to keep the great outdoors open to all.
Researchers are flocking to Mount Rainier to study the effects of climate change that they predict will destroy habitat for plant and animal species up and down the mountain.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 21, 2014Hell of an article.
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climatehawk1
/ December 21, 2014Thanks, tweet scheduled.
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dtlange
/ December 21, 2014“The Nisqually Glacier, the one of Rainier’s 28 named glaciers most accessible to visitors, has been receding rapidly since 1983. It’s at a historic minimum, and this summer it shrank toward the mountain’s summit at unprecedented speed: more than 3 feet every 10 days.”
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Colorado Bob
/ December 21, 2014What struck me in the article, among many things , was that the streams and river beds are rising , because so much material is coming off the mountain. First time, I had ever heard of that one.
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Griffin
/ December 21, 2014Wow! That is an exceptional piece of journalism!!
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Mark from New England
/ December 21, 2014Wondering if Robert will have a ‘Christmas present’ article for us? I’m missing him right now along with Stephen Colbert. That was a great show.
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 21, 2014I suspect Robert has been very busy, and hopefully productively in his favor. In his absence, I think all are doing a fantastic job of collaborating and perusing information. I for one, appreciate everyone here and their insights, findings and information. Whether yourself, dtlange, Apneaman, CB (congrats, you are now an abbreviation), Kevin et al, I very much look forward to all of your posts. I learn more every day, thanks to everyone.
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Griffin
/ December 21, 2014Thank you for saying this Andy, as my thoughts mirror yours. I would like to thank all of you that have sustained this blog as a going concern in Roberts absence. I look forward to reading the insights and posts from all of you. It is a great group on here!
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Colorado Bob
/ December 21, 2014New challenges for ocean acidification research
Over the past decade, ocean acidification has received growing recognition not only in the scientific area. Decision-makers, stakeholders, and the general public are becoming increasingly aware of “the other carbon dioxide problem.” It is time to reflect on the successes and deficiencies of ocean acidification research and to take a look forward at the challenges the fastest growing field of marine science is facing. In the January issue of the journal “Nature Climate Change” Ulf Riebesell, professor for Biological Oceanography at GEOMAR Helmholtz Centre for Ocean Research Kiel, and Jean-Pierre Gattuso from the French Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique (CNRS) urge the international scientific community to undertake a concerted interdisciplinary effort. According to the two experts, future ocean acidification research will have to deal with three major challenges: It needs to expand from single to multiple drivers, from single species to communities and ecosystems, and from evaluating acclimation to understanding adaptation. “The growing knowledge in each of the diverging research branches needs to be assimilated into an integrated assessment,” Prof. Riebesell points out.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/12/141219104039.htm
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Colorado Bob
/ December 21, 2014How the Fastest-Warming City in the Country Is Cooling Off
In Louisville, it’s one tree at a time.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/12/louisville-heat-tree-cover-113424.html#ixzz3MZlbhTsb
Don’t read the comments, it’ll make you sick to your stomach.
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Griffin
/ December 21, 2014I read the comments and reached a pseudo-scientific conclusion. I submit my findings here for peer review. I have concluded that the problem we face is actually not one of rising levels of CO2, it is runaway levels of ignorance. I think we are screwed.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 22, 2014“No one ever when broke under estimating the intelligence of the American people”
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 22, 2014I have to read the comments, no matter what I think. I feel it is important to understand / evaluate when a locale becomes panicked. They will hold out till the bitter end. I bet they vote in those the hold out till the bitter end as well. At least they won’t migrate till it is too late.
I find the comments fascinating. Not one iota of backing science to any of those denials.
When did any of the following impact the laws of physics? Al Gores House, A Newsweek story in the 70’s, Al gores flight patterns, my diet, your diet, caves, the UN, theoretical implications of UN conspiracy. How does any of that impact the laws of physics? Laws of particle behavior does not care about Republican, Democrat, Liberal or Conservative. It just does what it is supposed to do. Simple math.
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climatehawk1
/ December 22, 2014Right. A favorite comeback I like is, “Good thinking. If that doesn’t prove that the laws of physics are repealed, I don’t know what does.” And that’s usually about all the time I spend “debating”–arguing with deniers is a time sink that takes away from educating myself and others about the real state of affairs.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 21, 2014Happy Birthday Frank Zappa
(December 21, 1940 – December 4, 1993)
Frank always spoke truth to power.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 21, 2014The Mothers of Invention – Motherly Love
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humortra
/ December 21, 2014I have enjoyed Zappa’s music since the 60s, but I have yet to appreciate his contribution to the current climate debate. I would appreciate any elucidation of his contribution.
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davidlwindt
/ December 23, 2014Humorta: I believe this FZ quote has relevance to the current climate debate:
“Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.”
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 21, 2014Billy The Mountain!
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Colorado Bob
/ December 22, 2014Yes , Billy The Mountain!
Live at UCLA !
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 21, 2014I’m sure many of you do the same as me. Each day you peruse clime reanalyzer & null school to check SST, SSTA, air temp & air temp anomaly.
Last year we saw a hotspot over Siberia, a cold spot over N. America at this time. Roughly 50/50 anomalies above & below (above in Siberia, below in N. America).
This winter so far, it appears to be roughly 60-75% above normal, with N. America getting a good dose of this. Additionally, the SSTA for N. America is way spiked.
Anyone else notice this and have thoughts?
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bassman
/ December 22, 2014Andy, Same here. How accurate is the forecasting of global temp anomalies? I normally don’t look into these but was wondering how accurate it is 3 or more days out. Ocean temps have been record setting (for December) so far. Surface temps look to put December in the low to mid .60’s anomaly if current trends continue.
Also, in reference to your comments below, my big concern about deforestation is what some of the add on effects of el nino induced droughts over the next few years will be. I think a lot more attention needs to be focused on deforestation rather than just emissions because of their influence on the water cycle. The difference between dense tree cover and parking lots is very stark in this modern world for so many reasons.
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 22, 2014I’ve been looking for the past 2 days, and have been unsuccessful so far….
I am looking for historical vegetation coverage for the Mid East, Africa and Europe. I am also looking for the historical data on rain fall for the same regions. The higher the granularity (resolution) the better in concurrence with time (looking for correlation between time, coverage, rainfall, human behavior).
My rationale for this investigation is as follows.
I suspect we are seeing a repeat of human behavior induced destruction of rainfall patterns based on removal of vegetation / trees and it’s effect on downstream rainfall (prosperity / conflict). In Brazil today, we are seeing a deforestation induced reduction in rainfall in southern Brazil (Sao Paolo State being ground zero). Amazon is being bulldozed, burned and the “flying river” is being killed. Those downstream of this atmospheric precipitation see reduced rainfall, vegetation, prosperity and increased conflict.
Historically, humans have denuded vast forests and may have caused similar events. Specifically in Lebanon (how many of those “great cedars” do we have left?), Syria, Sumeria and southern Europe. Greece used to be covered in Forest. That is until humans ripped out the trees, and the soil washed away.
I am curious if to the east of these regions there used to be rainfall, prosperity until we removed the Forest (thus the “flying rivers”) causing a knock on effect.
If you know of any such data, do share! If you run with this and do a paper throw me a bone and a hat tip!
thanks.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 22, 2014Check Anchorage, AK, they can’t make snow, because it’s to warm , and it’s natural normal snowfall is 1/3 of the average. . Which fell weeks ago.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 22, 2014Anchorage’s persistent warm weather so far this winter may be record setting
How about the sensation of ice forming in your nostrils when breathing in cold air? That happens when the temperature is approximately 5 degrees or colder.
But so far this winter, the lowest temperature at Ted Stevens International Airport in Anchorage came Saturday morning when the mercury briefly dipped to 13 degrees. While warm winters are nothing new to Anchorage, even warm winters have cold spells. Not this year. Never before have we gone this late in the season without at least a brief period of significantly colder weather. Since 1916, every year has seen a temperature of 7 degrees or colder by Dec. 15. In fact, Anchorage normally has eight sub-zero days by this date.
http://www.adn.com/article/20141215/anchorages-persistent-warm-weather-so-far-winter-may-be-record-setting
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climatehawk1
/ December 22, 2014Tweet scheduled.
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 22, 2014That heat intrusion looks ominous. It has been there all season. Same on the other side in the Atlantic. Could it be the SSTA can not be overcome?
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Colorado Bob
/ December 22, 2014A new ocean disaster –
This time at Cape Cod, and it’s turtles . They went from 47 beaching to over 1,200 in a season.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 22, 2014Mysterious Illness Sickening Sea Turtles
http://www.nbcnews.com/watch/nightly-news/mysterious-illness-sickening-sea-turtles-375742019599
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Colorado Bob
/ December 22, 2014There are 10 Million viruses in every tea spoon of sea water , they get to vote on climate change too. And they vote faster, in greater numbers than we do.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 22, 2014It’s Frank Zappa’s birthday , and when pagans used to oil their bodies.
I concluded that I have lived between Sir Issac Newton , and Homer Simpson.
There are 10 Million viruses in every tea spoon of sea water.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 22, 2014Every virus get’s to vote on climate change. Whether you like it or not.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 22, 2014Frank Zappa –
I cannot believe he has been dead this long. And we are so poor from his leaving.
Frank Zappa at PMRC Senate Hearing on Rock Lyrics ……………… 33 mins of Frank.
You never miss your water, until it’s gone.
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dtlange
/ December 22, 2014I used to watch the Steve Allen Show back in those days but I think I missed this one.
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 22, 2014My Xmas / Chanukah (or whatever you believe) gift to the world this year.
I have divested ALL investments away from fossil fuels, carbon polluters 100% this year. I did not have much there to start with, but made sure it is all invested away from the denial companies and polluters this year, deliberately.
And for those that say “only carbon heavy investments pay well”, I am up net for the year ( a lot).
So to my kid who will inherit my standpoint, I am thankful I can pass along a clean portfolio. And to all of you, I am able to put my money where my mouth is, and proud to do so.
Been 100% fossil fuel clean on investments for over 14 months now (personal, 401k, etc…) , and will remain so.
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bassman
/ December 22, 2014While Robert takes a break on new blog posts, here are two new really important stories on a possible PDO shift underway.
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/corals-secrets-of-warming-18468
See Skeptical Science for the 2nd post.
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Kevin Jones
/ December 22, 2014Wow, bassman. This goes far in answering some very big and long held questions. Thanks.
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bassman
/ December 22, 2014Kevin, It makes me think that a return to positive PDO will be a major turning point in climate conditions(not in a good way). Maybe many of the positive feedbacks such as reduced snow cover, reduced sea ice, drought, ocean co2 sink to source changes and others could all really shift into high gear over time spans as short as a year to a decade. The ocean has done us a great favor for the last 16 years or so, if the ocean surface stays like this a couple more years we may indeed be back in a positive PDO. We might not know until after the next El Niño is complete.
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dtlange
/ December 22, 2014Low Oil Prices May Bode Ill For Climate
Published: December 5th, 2014
Climate change and falling crude oil prices coalesce at the gas pump.
Filling the gas tank of a Hummer for $2.18 per gallon in Texas or $2.39 per gallon in New Jersey when a year ago those prices were as much as 75 cents higher means that it’s likely people will drive more, burning more gasoline and spewing more CO2 into the atmosphere, experts say.
Oil prices are continuing their sub-$70-per-barrel dive, and as gasoline prices fall with them, they create barriers to decreasing fossil fuel consumption and increasing fuel efficiency.
It also means the U.S. shale oil boom may slow, but not completely go bust. The shale oil boom itself is part of the reason oil prices have been in a free-fall since summer. Shale oil, through advances in hydraulic fracturing, is flooding the market with U.S. crude. Oil prices, which have fallen about 35 percent this year, are also remaining low because the OPEC oil cartel announced in November it won’t cut Middle Eastern production in an attempt to maintain global dominance as the U.S. becomes the world’s leader in pumping crude oil.
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/low-oil-prices-may-bode-ill-for-climate-18403
– That’s us — literally driving ourselves to extinction…
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climatehawk1
/ December 22, 2014On a very modest positive note, however: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/22/us/despite-cheaper-gas-public-transit-ridership-is-up-trade-group-reports.html
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dtlange
/ December 22, 2014PDX, OR USA
Dec. 20 & 21 had high/low air temps that were record highs — even the night time low temp was up in the record high category… 45-59 F. for Sun. 12/21
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todaysguestis
/ December 22, 2014Warming world’s rising seas wash away some of South Florida’s glitz
“Wanless remembers when he first started getting calls for help from local authorities.
“In around 2008 or 2009, one of the first years we had a lot of water in the Miami Beach area, the public works people called me for help and I went into this room in their government building and they were all in their coats and ties and they said, ‘We are having a little problem in Miami Beach, we are getting water in the streets. Where do you suggest we put it?’
“I held my laughter. The ocean had arrived. You can put the water anywhere you want, but it is going to keep coming.”
Wanless believes the hundreds of millions of dollars that have already been spent of flood mitigation infrastructure around Miami have been wasted because the sea cannot be held back.
“We are in the position where we think we are going to fight it and win. We are not going to win.”
Soon, he believes, insurance companies will stop underwriting homes in the worst affected areas and then owners will be unable to sell.
Money should be saved for moving people away while all levels of government work to reduce emissions, he argues.”
http://www.smh.com.au/world/warming-worlds-rising-seas-wash-away-some-of-south-floridas-glitz-20141220-129wub.html
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climatehawk1
/ December 22, 2014I liked this quote: “What was not so widely reported was that South Beach stank of shit. There is no nice way to put it. The place smelled of human waste. There had been a brief, heavy downpour but the water could not escape, so the sewers backed up and filled the roads. The traffic slowed to walking pace or seized entirely, and the models tottering between the restaurants and hotels and clubs had to pick wide arcs on the pavements to avoid the nasty pools swelling from the gutters.” Some things are going to become hard to overlook.
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Griffin
/ December 23, 2014Washington Post also has an article about the ridiculousness of Miami and the complete ignorance of so many who have the money to know better. It will all fall down the day the insurance companies decide they have had enough of the risk. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/storyline/wp/2014/12/22/miamis-climate-catch-22-building-luxury-condos-to-pay-for-protection-against-the-rising-sea/?postshare=2921419271961715
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 23, 2014Alaska Permafrost becoming less “perma”.
http://news.discovery.com/earth/global-warming/most-of-alaskas-permafrost-could-melt-this-century-141220.htm
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Spike
/ December 23, 2014If the temperature of the oceans increases by two degrees as suggested by some reports, it will accelerate the thawing to the extreme. A warming climate could lead to an explosive gas release from the shallow areas.”
http://phys.org/news/2014-12-methane-leaking-permafrost-offshore-siberia.html
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Spike
/ December 23, 2014The Guardian features this article on wheat yields with future warming – it’s downhill all the way from now on folks.
http://bit.ly/1v9Ysj4
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 23, 2014I was reading that last night and immediately thought of the PDO article bassman found yesterday. It showed the +/- PDO effects on global temperatures. Such an event could case a sudden event that lacks mitigation threatening net importers of food very quickly.
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Spike
/ December 23, 2014The UK is getting warmer and wetter as predicted:
Temperature records:
Since 2000, there have been 10 times as many hot records as cold records.
Taking into account the weighting, the period since 2000 accounts for two-thirds of all hot records in a national series from 1910, but only 3% of cold-records.
The longer Central England Temperature (CET) series, which dates back to 1659, reveals a similar trend – with seven out of a possible 17 records set since 2000 but no record cold periods.
The increase in hot records and decrease in cold records seen in recent decades is consistent with the long-term climate change signal. Seven of the warmest years in the UK series from 1910 have occurred since 2000.
Rainfall records:
Since 2000 there have been almost 10 times as many wet records as dry records.
Taking into account the weighting, the period since 2000 accounts for 45% of all wet records in a national series from 1910, but only 2% of dry records.
Remarkably, period since 2010 accounts for more wet records than any other decade – even though this only a 5 year period. The most prominent wet records in this period were winter 2013/2014 and April, June and year 2012.
The longer England & Wales Precipitation (EWP) series, which dates back to 1766, shows a similar trend – with six out of a possible 17 records set since 2000, but no record dry periods.
http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2014/12/17/has-there-been-a-recent-increase-in-uk-weather-records/
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wili
/ December 23, 2014Thanks, Spike. It would be interesting to get a region-by-region update on how these impacts are proceeding–where are things getting generally wetter so far and where are they getting dryer, and how do either match up with regional predictions.
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Spike
/ December 23, 2014The dire outlook for floods in the UK
http://eciu.net/briefings/climate-impacts/flood-risk-and-the-uk
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climatehawk1
/ December 23, 2014Thanks, tweet scheduled on this.
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wili
/ December 23, 2014Apologies if this has already been linked, but these look like a couple of quite important studies for understanding the pattern of chaos we are heading into. They also suggest that Archer and co. have gotten it enormously wrong on predictions of a relatively stable seabed permafrost layer.
>>Methane is leaking from permafrost offshore Siberia<<
"… Portnov and his colleagues have recently published two papers about permafrost offshore West Yamal, in the Kara Sea. Papers look into the extent of permafrost on the ocean floor and how it is connected to the significant release of the greenhouse gas methane.
It was previously proposed that the permafrost in the Kara Sea, and other Arctic areas, extends to water depths up to 100 meters, creating a seal that gas cannot bypass. Portnov and collegues have found that the West Yamal shelf is leaking, profoundly, at depths much shallower than that.
Significant amount of gas is leaking at depths between 20 and 50 meters. This suggests that a continuous permafrost seal is much smaller than proposed. Close to the shore the permafrost seal may be few hundred meters thick, but tapers off towards 20 meters water depth. And it is fragile.
'If the temperature of the oceans increases by two degrees as suggested by some reports, it will accelerate the thawing to the extreme. A warming climate could lead to an explosive gas release from the shallow areas.'"
http://phys.org/news/2014-12-methane-leaking-permafrost-offshore-siberia.html
(Thanks to vox_mundi at POForums for this link.)
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wili
/ December 23, 2014Ah, I see Spike beat me to it above. But really, this one is worth some discussion, and perhaps worth a treatment by RS, perhaps together with the terrestrial permafrost issues discussed some here? I image we won’t see him till into the new year, though.
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Griffin
/ December 24, 2014Maybe it is just me, but I don’t see any new information from this article. They have some quotes from Portnov and reference “two papers”. One of them was published in Aug 2013, the other was Nov 2014. The latter paper that is written in regards to modeling of permafrost reaction to warming waters. In effect, if the water warms we might see a massive melt of permafrost and subsequent release of methane gas due to hydrate destabilization.
Call me crazy but I believe we have been discussing this very topic in detail for quite some time now. Robert has been touting the dangers of subsurface warm currents mixing down and warming the sea floor in this region at length. It is good to see articles written to raise the awareness of others though, so I don’t want to come across as negative.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 23, 2014I read this , and thought about that video Ouse M.D.posted 2 days ago. This area is also where the blow out craters where seen last summer.
This is a chain of events, not “one-off events”.
The irony is , the Russians call this , “The end of the world” . I’m sure when they named it, they never dreamed it could mean more than just a really hard place to get to.
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Ouse M.D.
/ December 24, 2014Actually the video has been removed, after I pointed to the fact that was too much a hint.
And it was near Rezh, middle part of the Urals.
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wili
/ December 24, 2014Sustained Southern Oscillation Index (SOI) values below -8 are indicative of an El Nino. Today’s SOI is -38.56! That’s preliminary, and one day’s value is not very probative by itself, but this is part of a pattern over the last week of steadily falling values (about -37 yesterday, -20 before that, and in the negative teens for the three days previous). So perhaps worth keeping an eye on in between gulps of eggnog and gluehwein!
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wili
/ December 24, 2014And the more significant 30-day average is now below the -8 mark.
https://www.longpaddock.qld.gov.au/seasonalclimateoutlook/southernoscillationindex/30daysoivalues/
(I’m double posting this to see if I can get around the automatic moderator. rs should feel free to delete this if the other goes through.)
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wili
/ December 24, 2014http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/glossary/soi.shtml
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Phil
/ December 25, 2014Hello Wili,
I have seen some comments about the large drop in SOI on arctic sea ice forum on ‘consequences/2014 El Nino’ thread. Apparently a couple of low pressure systems or possibly even cyclones are expected to pass over or close to Taithi over the next week or so, driving the large reductions in SOI values seen recently. We are a few days into this event.
After this, the SOI values are expected to revert back to more normal values although 30 day and 90 day averages might be affected somewhat while the recent values remain in the relevant ranges for these averages.
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wili
/ December 25, 2014Thanks for the perspective, Phil.
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wili
/ December 26, 2014I see the daily value has zoomed back up to -1 in two days! 30-day average, still about -9, though.
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Kevin Jones
/ December 25, 2014Just a brief note of true gratitude to all you contributors and you, Robert, for your grand efforts which have attracted such a remarkably interesting crew. Folks who are interested in the real world are real -world interesting! Best to All. (this Bud’s for you!) And continued engagement in this forthcoming ‘new year’.
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Griffin
/ December 25, 2014Best to you as well Kevin!! It is a joy to connect with you and all the others on this blog.
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Wharf Rat
/ December 25, 2014more buds for you
http://www.420magazine.com/forums/general-420-talk/207556-share-your-cannabis-christmas-tree-pics-ho-ho-ho.html
Happy holidays, folks.
Rat
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utoutback
/ December 25, 2014In may seem naive, but:
Peace on Earth and Goowill to All.
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dtlange
/ December 25, 2014Thanks. 🙂
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Griffin
/ December 25, 2014Good read, sharp pics. Enjoy folks. I am looking forward to some comments from everyone on this one!
http://siberiantimes.com/science/casestudy/news/n0076-how-global-warming-could-turn-siberia-into-a-giant-crater-time-bomb/
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climatehawk1
/ December 25, 2014Agree nice pics, but I don’t think repeated comparisons with the Bermuda Triangle are helpful.
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Griffin
/ December 26, 2014Yes, the Bermuda Triangle references showed a naivete with the subject matter on the part of the writer. I found the article interesting in that there has been very little follow up reporting on the holes since the summertime. It was good to see that the research into them continues. I would like to know more about the possible geothermal link – is there any validity to that? Are the holes something we will see more of in the future or are they a rare natural phenomenon that happened to get our attention because of the modern ubiquity of the video camera and the unprecedented sharing of information via the internet?
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dtlange
/ December 26, 2014Some useful terms I liked: “crystallised ‘fire ice’ gas, relic hydrate”.
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dtlange
/ December 25, 2014– Noteworthy from ALJAZEERA AMERICA:
World’s future climate will depend on people in 2015, not governments
Series of increasingly dire warnings about effects of global warming met with inaction by world leaders
December 25, 2014
As the world looks ahead to the signing of a global climate treaty in Paris next year — a year predicted to be the hottest on record after 2014 — a lack of significant pledges to cut carbon emissions by world leaders signals a lack of political will that could be catastrophic for the entire globe.
Though the entire world will face the consequences of inaction, it is likely the poorest will be affected first. Low-lying states like the Marshall Islands in the South Pacific may be drowned by rising seas if climate change is not curbed. Nearby Kiribati is already preparing for a full-scale evacuation of its residents due to climate change. Researchers warned that a hotter world would have a severe impact on agriculture, with global implications for food prices.
Scientists warned last month that saving the world as we know it would require leaving up to 85 percent of currently recoverable fossil fuel reserves in the ground. If not, the global average temperature could increase more than 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit (2 degrees Celsius) over pre-Industrial era temperatures — leading to abrupt climate disruption.
The release of a series of increasingly dire scientific reports in 2014 cataloging effects of climate change already in motion such as increasingly severe storms has moved the global conversation forward.
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/12/25/world-s-future-climatewilldependonpeoplein2015notgovernments.html
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Colorado Bob
/ December 26, 2014Average temperature in Finland has risen by more than two degrees
According to a recent University of Eastern Finland and Finnish Meteorological Institute study, the rise in the temperature has been especially fast over the past 40 years, with the temperature rising by more than 0.2 degrees per decade. “The biggest temperature rise has coincided with November, December and January. Temperatures have also risen faster than the annual average in the spring months, i.e., March, April and May. In the summer months, however, the temperature rise has not been as significant,” says Professor Ari Laaksonen of the University of Eastern Finland and the Finnish Meteorological Institute. As a result of the temperature rising, lakes in Finland get their ice cover later than before, and the ice cover also melts away earlier in the spring. Although the temperature rise in the actual growth season has been moderate, observations of Finnish trees beginning to blossom earlier than before have been made.
Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2014-12-average-temperature-finland-risen-degrees.html#jCp
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Colorado Bob
/ December 26, 2014Water table drops as drought forces more pumping
TRUTH OR CONSEQUENCES, N.M. (AP) – The Upper Rio Grande Basin has been struggling with drought for most of the past decade, forcing cities and farmers from southern Colorado to Texas’ Hudspeth County to pump water from the ground to make up for the lack of snow and rain.
Experts say that has resulted in the groundwater levels dropping in the border region as much as 200 feet in the past 10 years.
The precipitous drop is especially disturbing because it’s taking place in an area where it recharges too slowly to make up the loss. Worse, many experts predict a future in which even less water in the river will mean even more pumping.
Even if the region gets through the present drought, the basin’s groundwater will be overexploited, said Brian Hurd, an agricultural economics professor at New Mexico State University who also is president of the Universities Council on Water Resources, a national organization.
“The real big deal is going to be the change in the intensity of pumping,” Hurd tells the El Paso Times.
http://krqe.com/2014/12/25/water-table-drops-as-drought-forces-more-pumping/
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climatehawk1
/ December 26, 2014Thanks, tweet scheduled.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 26, 2014PM under fire as 118000 flee worst Malaysia floods in decades
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Colorado Bob
/ December 26, 2014UK wildlife endures roller-coaster year of extreme weather
Wildlife is in store for a bumpy ride in the coming years, one of the country’s leading naturalists warns today, as a double-whammy of extreme weather and accelerating habitat loss straps nature into a roller-coaster ride.
Experts say Britain has experienced one of the warmest, if not the warmest, year on record in 2014, while last winter’s rainfall in England and Wales was the heaviest since 1766.
“The greatest challenge for wildlife this year, and perhaps a sign of things to come, was the extreme weather,” said Matthew Oates, the National Trust’s Nature and wildlife specialist. “This, combined with the loss of habitat, means that nature is in for a bumpy ride in the years ahead, as shown by the roller coaster that many species endured in 2014.
“This was a remarkable year for much of our wildlife, with many extreme highs and lows. Some species fared exceptionally well, others very poorly, with many faring differently from region to region.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/uk-wildlife-endures-rollercoaster-year-of-extreme-weather-9945526.html
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Colorado Bob
/ December 26, 2014More on that methane paper –
Lexey Portnov, Jurgen Mienert and Pavel Serov of the Arctic University of Norway in Tromsø and VNIIOkeangeologia in Saint Petersburg have published a worrying paper in the Journal of Geophysical Research: Biogeosciences, in which they have been, “Modeling the evolution of climate-sensitive Arctic subsea permafrost in regions of extensive gas expulsion at the West Yamal shelf” . In it, they ponder the 2 problems of vulcanism beneath the sea and warming ocean above the permafrost. Intermittently, both have melted the permafrost and released the dreaded methane.
The Russian portion of the Arctic shelves that stretch from Eurasia deep into the cold waters contain degrading subsea permafrost, swallowed up when sea levels rose 20,000 years ago in the Late Pleistocene. Minor changes in the temperature, such as subtle geothermal heat flow from beneath, seem to affect the methane production. The permafrost has a thickness of 275-390m near the shore which leaves us with incredible amounts of methane when you consider how much dissolves in one cubic meter of water. That figure is 164 cubic meters!
http://www.earthtimes.org/climate/methane-danger-undersea-permafrost/2782/
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Colorado Bob
/ December 26, 2014Alexey Miller: Yamal is the future of the Russian gas industry
Wednesday, Dec 24, 2014
A new gas facility (GP-1) was commissioned today at the Bovanenkovskoye field.
Taking part in the commissioning ceremony were Alexey Miller, Chairman of the Gazprom Management Committee, Dmitry Kobylkin, Governor of the Yamal-Nenets Autonomous Area, heads of the Company’s structural units, subsidiaries and contracting agencies.
Russian President Vladimir Putin commanded to put onstream the gas facility.
Gazprom gradually builds up its production capacities in the Bovanenkovskoye field and develops the Cenomanian-Aptian deposits. The annual design capacity of the new gas facility (GP-1) is 30 billion cubic meters. As a comparison, it is more than the Company will be producing from the Chayandinskoye field, the largest one in Yakutia.
http://www.youroilandgasnews.com/alexey+miller%3A+yamal+is+the+future+of+the+russian+gas+industry_110466.html
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Colorado Bob
/ December 26, 2014Friday,
December 26th, 2014
Air Temperature Anomaly
Check out Siberia today –
http://cci-reanalyzer.org/DailySummary/index_ds.php#
It’s only 20C degrees above average.
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Mark from New England
/ December 27, 2014Extreme northern Quebec is even hotter. And to have it nearly 60 degrees in the northeast on Christmas was weird too.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 26, 2014Christmas heat breaks records across Atlantic Canada
Moncton beat its 13.3 ºC record set in 1996 by more than two degrees. Their Christmas Day temperature reached a high of 15.6 ºC. Saint John hit 14.0 ºC, easily exceeding their previous high: 2003’s 12.8 ºC.
Shearwater beat a record that was more than 120 years old. Their previous Christmas day high came on December 25, 1886 reaching 12.2 ºC. Their new high is 14.3ºC
Halifax and Greenwood had perhaps the biggest jump: 3.5 and 3.6 degrees respectively. Greenwood was up to 18.5 ºC this year. Almost 20 ºC!
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/christmas-heat-breaks-records-across-atlantic-canada/42547/
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Colorado Bob
/ December 26, 2014The top of of the planet continues to warm ever faster in winter. , and these numbers from Canada point to ever warmer water off shore . Saint John did not set this on Christmas record because a wind from Mexico blew up. they set it because the ocean near them is still very very warm.
It’s been too warm to make snow in Anchorage –
Making snow in Anchorage? Weird weather in Alaska
http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article4682157.html
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Colorado Bob
/ December 26, 2014As a system nears a tipping point, it moves to the extremes
Snow drought: December record for least snow underway in Grand Rapids
The last time the first 25 days of December saw so little snow in Grand Rapids was 1946, when only five-tenths of an inch fell. The phenomenon was repeated in 1947, when only seven-tenths of an inch fell.
The record lack of snowfall is a sharp contrast to the 31 inches that fell last month, which was the snowiest November on record in Grand Rapids.
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2014/12/wheres_the_snow_least_snowiest.html
As a system nears a tipping point, it moves to the extremes
There it tends to get suck , before wildly swing back to the other extreme.
During one of the extremes, a new state emerges. And the system shifts to a new state.
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Mark from New England
/ December 27, 2014Colorado Bob,
Thanks for keeping this thread going over the holiday.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 27, 2014Mark.
As a system nears a tipping point, it moves to the extremes
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Colorado Bob
/ December 27, 2014Mark. It’s about keeping perma-frost frozen . Large amounts of Alaska can’t make man made snow on the ski slopes. They are not skying in Alaska/
It’s too warm to make snow.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 27, 2014RS –
Time to make a new post , we’ve ground this one to a pulp.
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Kevin Jones
/ December 27, 2014Nuuk, Greenland: Wind 13.8 mph out of the EAST. Air temp 5C 41F 12/27/14 10:50UTC according to Athropolis
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Kevin Jones
/ December 27, 2014Weather Underground confirms this and adds: light rain…..
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 27, 2014Looking at the temperature anomaly map it looks like the East coast is above normal (by what appears a significant amount).
Can anyone living there confirm this? Is it noticeably above average?
Here in So Cal, we’ve had a bit of a chill one morning (~45F), but daytime is ~72-80F. It should be a high around 55-65F for this time of year.
I know this due to riding my motorbike in the winter, that 33F temp at 80 mph in your face, shins and fingers is pretty unforgettable. It’s downright balmy this winter.
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Griffin
/ December 28, 2014At 55F , I was walking around Boston with a sweatshirt and no coat today Andy. It felt like a typical day in early April.
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RWood
/ December 28, 2014It was minus two in the very early morning near Albuquerque, but solar heating brfught melting to the 6″ of snow.
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doug
/ December 28, 2014Rwood, as one Albuquerqian to another, how do you feel about living here for say the next thirty years-climate wise? I feel relatively good about it. The only extreme weather events that seem a possible threat at all, would be heat waves, but it is so much cooler here than other parts of the Southwest that I think we’ll be okay (hope). Of course water supply is a major concern, but we’re a lot better off than Las Vegas, Phoenix, San Diego in my opinion. I have talked with some well known hydrologists, and none of them think Albuquerque is going to “run out of water” in this time span. This of course is a very different story for people who rely on well water around New Mexico. Drought of course, will hit here big, and that will effect the economy. That is my main concern, but it’s not a “weather event”. At least we don’t have to worry about Hurricanes, Tsunamis, Earthquakes, Blizzards, Extreme flooding, (unless you live in the valley) Phoenix level temperatures, nor wet bulb temperatures because of the lack of humidity. We don’t get extreme cold temperatures, and if the predicted increased power failures happen in the future, we at least can survive that year around-temperature wise. All in all I think this is a bit of a haven for the Southern U.S. when one considers climate impacts-except, for, drought.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 29, 2014What will you folks be using for drinking water in Albuquerque?
Water table drops as drought forces more pumping.
TRUTH OR CONSEQUENCES, N.M. (AP) – The Upper Rio Grande Basin has been struggling with drought for most of the past decade, forcing cities and farmers from southern Colorado to Texas’ Hudspeth County to pump water from the ground to make up for the lack of snow and rain.
Experts say that has resulted in the groundwater levels dropping in the border region as much as 200 feet in the past 10 years.
The precipitous drop is especially disturbing because it’s taking place in an area where it recharges too slowly to make up the loss. Worse, many experts predict a future in which even less water in the river will mean even more pumping.
Even if the region gets through the present drought, the basin’s groundwater will be overexploited, said Brian Hurd, an agricultural economics professor at New Mexico State University who also is president of the Universities Council on Water Resources, a national organization.
“The real big deal is going to be the change in the intensity of pumping,” Hurd tells the El Paso Times.
http://krqe.com/2014/12/25/water-table-drops-as-drought-forces-more-pumping/
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Ryan O'Connor
/ December 28, 2014Andy, I’m in Ct and have been running in shorts the past few days. It has definitely been, and continues to be, very mild for this time of year. Although the entire term “normal weather for this time of year” should probably be retired. Recent years have given us tastes of every season pretty much any time of year. Fall in winter, summer in winter, we are def transitioning to a very different climate than the one we knew and loved.
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doug
/ December 28, 2014Oh, and in Albuquerque we don’t have to worry about sea level rise either.
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JimB
/ December 28, 2014May have to worry about heat if the rivers and dams can no longer be used for electricity generation because of low levels and you can’t run your air conditioning.
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doug
/ December 29, 2014Hi JimB,
Yeah, that’s something that I’ve wondered about…
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Jacque
/ December 29, 2014I run my swamp cooler off my solar panel – mostly only need it in the heat of the afternoon when the sun shines and I am generating more power than I otherwise use on long summer days in southern Utah. ps – I left NM partly because of the shakey water supply.
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doug
/ December 28, 2014Forest fires on the outskirts of Albuquerque will be an issue though. Projected to be around 4 times as common as today in the Southwest by 2050. It’s why I already have several masks that filter out smoke. Well, Nowhere is going to be perfect under climate change, but considering the 300 plus days of humid free sunshine we get here, this place is a jewel.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 29, 2014I would add that the entire pinon / juniper forest collapsed northwest of Albuquerque over a decade ago.
For those who don’t know, pinon / juniper is one of the toughest tree systems. nature ever developed. The folks at Mesa Verde’ were eating pinon nuts. Dozens of animals depend on them. Hundreds of thousands of acres of them died in a 2 year period over a decade ago. Then, the worst fires in New Mexico history came next.
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dtlange
/ December 29, 2014That’s right, CB. By nature, those trees are extremely hardy and geared for survival — something very un-natual is doing them in. (That’s us…)
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doug
/ December 28, 2014No Derechos, Tornados, Mosquitos…I think I ought to work for the tourism bureau.
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RWood
/ December 28, 2014Hello, Doug, and I’d have a better feeling if those forests weren’t so close to my home. Worse, I believe is the Chikungunya and dengue. Not immediately, but irrevocably.
This is what’s happening far away, but the mosquitoes are in our vicinity, I believe:
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/columns/Chikungunya-has-been-the-beast-of-2014_18146774
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doug
/ December 29, 2014Hi RWood,
I thought about that, Dengue, and other infectious diseases carried by insects. Mosquitos around here are pretty much only found by the Rio Grande I believe. Hard for them to spread very far without a water source.
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Kevin Jones
/ December 28, 2014https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/27/popefrancis-edict-climate-change-us-rightwing
Amen.
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humortra
/ December 28, 2014And at the end of that article:
Francis will also be opposed by the powerful US evangelical movement, said Calvin Beisner, spokesman for the conservative Cornwall Alliance for the Stewardship of Creation, which has declared the US environmental movement to be “un-biblical” and a false religion.
“The pope should back off,” he said. “The Catholic church is correct on the ethical principles but has been misled on the science. It follows that the policies the Vatican is promoting are incorrect. Our position reflects the views of millions of evangelical Christians in the US.”
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climatehawk1
/ December 28, 2014Yeah, the Pope should back off from matters of conscience. No end to deniers’ chutzpah.
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RWood
/ December 28, 2014Yes, you might look over the astute comments at Resource Crisis, as well as current Wit’s End.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 29, 2014I can’t believe I’m cheering a pope.
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Spike
/ December 28, 2014Dan Misleh, director of the Catholic climate covenant, said: “There will always be 5-10% of people who will take offence. They are very vocal and have political clout. This encyclical will threaten some people and bring joy to others. The arguments are around economics and science rather than morality.
Hmmm…if an issue which threatens the welfare of billions of humans and 20-50% of other species isn’t a moral one I don’t know what qualifies.
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 28, 2014The shame is that Francis is 78 and has one lung. He won’t be in that post for long. He has upset the right wing world wide quite well, as he is adept at pointing out their hypocrisies.
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Kevin Jones
/ December 28, 2014https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/27/pope-francis-edict-climate-change-us-rightwing
(hope this works)
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Kevin Jones
/ December 28, 2014p.s. Chevron could go straight to Hell for that ad! (1/2 way down on link above)
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Kevin Jones
/ December 28, 2014….the one saying we protect groundwater with eight layers of steel and concrete. (they’ve since changed it to an equally odious ploy…
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Spike
/ December 28, 2014Most of Europes glaciers are retreating according to EEA
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bu0uVEwCAAA3wrx.jpg:large
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Colorado Bob
/ December 29, 2014Spike –
The only gain is Norway where heat machine is flowing from the Atlantic into the Arctic, seeking a condenser. And giving up it’s water as hits the coast and rises and falls as snow.
I think this will reverse, as more rain (heat) falls on Norway. In a few years it will rain in Norway in January at altitude. Then the Norway glaciers will follow everyone south of them.
They will melt , and they will be a big problem as the water comes down stream.
Your chart reminds me of the sea ice around Antarctica. It only increased because so much fresh water was flowing into the sea it raised the ocean around Antarctica, and it freezes at 6F sooner than saltwater.
Funny little bumps on the road to hell.
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joni
/ December 29, 2014http://fortune.com/2014/12/21/why-the-next-world-war-will-be-fought-over-food/
Why the next world war will be fought over food
“The world has a massive food crisis on its hands. The crisis is so big that organizations like the World Bank and the United Nations say there won’t be enough food to feed the global population when it jumps from the current seven billion people to nine billion by 2050.
Some research even suggests a food scarcity crunch as early as 2030 – just 15 years from now.
The reasons? Severe weather events like droughts and floods, economic hardships, and political unrest in underdeveloped countries, as well as agribusiness expansion.
While many experts say that producing more food will make the crisis go away, others contend it’s not that simple.
“To address food security, we need a shift in the way we address poverty and inequality in the world,” Stephen Scanlan, a professor of sociology at Ohio University. “There should be a reframing of food as a fundamental human right in a way that governments actually stand by.””
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climatehawk1
/ December 29, 2014Thanks, missed that one. Tweet scheduled.
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RWood
/ December 29, 2014Coming to an economic zone near you…
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/climate-change-slash-wheat-yields-18483
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Phil S
/ December 29, 2014Couldn’t agree more Joni. Food insecurity will/is hitting more and more regions and communities. I think the 2030/2050 timeframe is for we privileged westerners.
Unfortunately, the solutions don’t suit big business
http://viacampesina.org/en/index.php/actions-and-events-mainmenu-26/-climate-change-and-agrofuels-mainmenu-75/1717-food-sovereignty-5-steps-to-cool-the-planet-and-feed-its-people
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Andy in San Diego
/ December 29, 2014A bad sign.
“Koenig discovered that lakes in west Greenland now stay liquid through the frigid winter, as long as an insulating snow blanket keeps the water warm. These lakes get a head start on melting the next summer.”
http://www.livescience.com/49224-greenland-ice-sheet-melt-changing.html
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Colorado Bob
/ December 29, 2014I would remind everyone, the plane lost over the Java Sea was trying to fly through thunderstorms over 50,000 feet high.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 29, 2014At least 24 killed in Malaysia, Thailand floods as 200,000 evacuated
Rain expected to continue for about a week, as officials struggle to get aid to some impacted communities
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/12/28/malaysia-flood-evacuations.html
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Colorado Bob
/ December 29, 2014“Get ready little lady, hell is coming breakfast”
Lone Wati
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doug
/ December 29, 2014Turbulence is also projected to increase by 50% I think by 2050, (because of climate change) and there have been several serious incidents and injuries lately because of turbulence.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 29, 2014We just saw this a few weeks back . The air we used to fly in may not be the air we see in the future.
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Mark from New England
/ December 30, 2014Perhaps the threat of rising turbulence will lower demand for air travel? That’d be a welcome negative feedback of sorts…
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Colorado Bob
/ December 29, 2014I would remind everyone , the entire system is gaining energy . One may not just sail from Japan anymore, one may have their forehead driven into the cabin of aircraft. If you don’t wear your seat belt at all times.
And ladies, never wear panty hose on a jet, and always wear flat shoes.
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dtlange
/ December 29, 2014Better yet, stay on the damn ground — and stay out of our air in your insidious heavier-than-air machines.
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Mark from New England
/ December 30, 2014DT, is that a particularly old plane in need of an oil change ;-), or is that really how much nasty shit your average jet spews on takeoff? Perhaps the smog background makes plane exhaust stand out more in California?
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doug
/ December 29, 2014Got anybody in your life that still needs convincing about the reality of global warming/climate change? Maybe for religious reasons? I just stumbled across this video of a talk by evangelical christian climate scientist Kathryn Hayhoe. I think it is excellent. It is great to convince deniers for two reasons. First of all it’s by an evangelical Christian, and secondly it’s a video. The effect of video is very different than reading, and frankly a lot of deniers probably don’t read a lot. Just saying’ But seriously bookmark this link and spread it around to any deniers you know. It’s a very good explanation of the science.
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Jacob
/ December 31, 2014I agree Doug, that is an excellent talk from Katherine Hayhoe. Very well articulated to explain the situation. I’m not religious myself, but I do see the war on the environment (which we’ve been waging) as a moral issue and she has eloquently hit the nail on the head. Thanks for finding and posting it.
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Kevin Jones
/ December 29, 2014Just a couple of thoughts regarding turbulence. I recall Lovelock discussing sea level as a great natural thermometer. And the late Stephen Schneider added that so was the height of the troposphere. Air expands, of course, as does water, with increasing heat. And as heat goes to those two, the stratosphere cools and shrinks…and I just botched the link, but there is a graph (and explanation ) over at NOAA of stratospheric temps from 1958-2012.showing a cooling trend. Recently accelerated.
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Kevin Jones
/ December 29, 2014….so the troposphere is expanding, the stratosphere,shrinking. What happens at the tropopause (re: turbulence) is my thought….
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/2012-state-climate-temperature-lower-stratosphere
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Kevin Jones
/ December 29, 2014…the image that comes to mind is pinching a watermelon seed between forefinger and thumb.(the tropopause being the seed)…..used to have great fun long ago in distance contests….
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Kevin Jones
/ December 29, 2014And now that I’ve stuck my foot in mouth 2013 (available in above link at bottom) shows a slight warming. But with large (4F + and – ) regional anomalies.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 29, 2014American Geophysical Union 2014 Recap: That Sinking, Drying, Sharing Feeling
Sociohydrology
“We need more interaction with the social sciences.”
Quite a few panels and posters traveled this line of inquiry.
One presentation looked at the relationship between rising temperatures and violence. Urban lore certainly connects the two. The Son of Sam serial killings, for instance, terrified New York City during its legendary 1977 heat wave, and films such as the steamy 1980s noir Body Heat link murderous intent with thermal oppression. But Solomon Hsiang of the University of California, Berkeley, analyzed the data. They analyzed 60 studies of climate and human conflict that varied in scale from the interpersonal to the national, from road rage to civil war. It is a tricky field for attributing cause and effect, but Hsiang found more agreement than not that more heat means more conflict.
“Disregarding the potential effect of anthropogenic climate change on human conflict is a dangerously misguided interpretation of the available evidence,” Hsiang concluded.
http://www.circleofblue.org/waternews/2014/commentary/editorial-in-the-circle-fresh-focus/american-geophysical-union-2014-recap-sinking-drying-sharing-feeling/
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Kevin Jones
/ December 29, 2014More of this sort of thing to come, I’m sure, Colorado Bob. As Vonnegut said of running out of oil, so could be said of running out of the stability of the Holocene: “When we run out of (it ) [that glurp] we will go positively apeshit.”
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dtlange
/ December 30, 2014Business Insider Dec. 29, 2014, 2:52 PM
This Is The Climate Report South Carolina Spent Years Hiding
… six major impacts of climate change in the state:
1. Detrimental change in habitat
2. Detrimental change in the abundance and distribution of species
3. Detrimental change in biodiversity and ecosystem services
4. Detrimental change to the traditional use of natural resources
5. Detrimental change to the abundance and quality of water, and
6. Detrimental change in sea level.
The document shows a history of rising temperatures, warming waters, and increases in severe weather events in the state, and also notes concerns for the future
… The report warns of rising sea levels, water shortages, severe storms, and species die-offs. It also lays out specifically how certain impacts of climate change could harm human health:
These impacts are real, but South Carolina policy-makers have been largely quiet when it comes to outlining plans for dealing with them.
The DNR acknowledges the state policy-makers’ climate change apathy in the now-public climate report, writing the following:
Interest in the effects of climate change in the Southeast is increasing, but there are any number of impediments to understanding and predicting climate change, including public apathy and a lack of awareness, lack of outreach on adaptation options, lack of uniform access to information on current climate change risks and a lack of guidance on what information and tools are available. Climate change documentation and development of adaptation strategies also are limited primarily by a lack of funding, a lack of political will and a lack of government leadership.
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dtlange
/ December 30, 2014http://www.businessinsider.com/south-carolinas-hidden-climate-report-2014-12
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Mark from New England
/ December 30, 2014Yep, if you ignore it, it doesn’t exist 😦
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dtlange
/ December 30, 2014– Did no one consider a prevention strategy…? Too complicated — or obvious…?
Iowa City, Iowa USA
County officials explore possibility of climate change commission
The Johnson County Board of Supervisors plans to approach other area governments with the idea of forming a commission to address climate change at the local level.
The supervisors expressed the goal Dec. 19 in a response to calls by local environmental activists for the county to create a body to devise a climate mitigation and adaptation plan.
The supervisors issued a five-page letter to environmentalists following a September meeting between officials and the participants in a climate march in Iowa City.
Board members said that any commission tasked with creating a climate mitigation plan should include not only county leaders, but elected officials, employees and citizens from at least the five cities that make up the Iowa City metro area and the University of Iowa.
“Matters of public health, in particular, require a multi-jurisdictional approach,” supervisors chairman Terrence Neuzil said in the letter.
http://www.press-citizen.com/story/news/local/2014/12/28/johnson-county-board-supervisors-climate-change/20974637/
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Carol
/ December 30, 2014Doug, Thanks for the link to the video by the evangelical Christian climate scientist. I watched it and think it’s a great resource for your denier, skeptical, or apathetic planet mates, religious or not.
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doug
/ December 31, 2014Your welcome Carol. Yeah, you have to speak to them in their own language for them to have a hope of getting it. I heard the movie “Chasing Ice” is very good at converting deniers as well. I guess nothing like seeing a Manhattan size chunk of ice collapse in front of your eyes to make an impression.
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doug
/ December 31, 2014Another thing to point out to deniers is that the Pope himself believes in it, and in fact is about to attempt to galvanize a billion Catholics behind the issue. And the World Council of Churches is on board. http://www.ecumenicalnews.com/article/world-church-body-to-hold-september-interfaith-climate-change-summit-in-ny-25434 I think using the religious angle to get at deniers is effective, because so many of them deny based on the belief that climate change somehow goes against God.
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humortra
/ December 30, 2014Apologies if this link has been posted before –
http://unfccc6.meta-fusion.com/cop20/events/2014-12-04-12-30-abibimman-foundation-united-planet-faith-science-initiative/abibimman-foundation-united-planet-faith-science-initiative-2
John Nissen is not great at presenting his case for geo-engineering, but enjoyed the clip.
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james cole
/ December 30, 2014The Western leaders believe and are staking the future on fossil fuels. This is from a report by the security services of the Russian Federation as regards the west’s energy polices going into the next two decades, and the prospect for conflict over hydrocarbon energy. ”
[Western…]
“specialists are certain that no real substitute for hydrocarbons as the basis of power generation will emerge in the next few decades. Furthermore the understanding prevails in the West that the total capacity of nuclear, hydro, wind, solar, and other power stations will meet no more than one-fifth of world demand.”
If Russian analysis of the West is correct, then what are the implications for climate? I say they are dire at best, and apocalyptic at worst. Is the world reading for 2 more decades of business as usual with fossil fuels being the “energy of choice”?
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Weir Bohnd
/ December 31, 2014Well friends, ready or not, it’s what’s for breakfast. That’s right, the one Hell is coming to.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 31, 2014http://www.sciencedaily.com/videos/5d7f5bd6f91469c21c99c9247de9b348.htm
Wind Tree uses micro-turbine leaves to generate electricity
A French start-up says its Wind Tree is ideal for urban environments, harnessing the most gentle of winds to produce power through its micro-turbine leaves. Suzannah Butcher reports. Video provided by Reuters
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climatehawk1
/ December 31, 2014Yeah, yeah. Hold onto your wallet. One reason wind turbines are not designed to “capture the gentlest of breezes” is because there is almost no energy in low-speed winds. Winds in urban areas are generally quite low, which is why most “urban turbine” companies have gone out of business.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 31, 2014Wednesday,
December 31st, 2014
Air Temperature
Anomaly
http://cci-reanalyzer.org/DailySummary/index_ds.php#
The heat over Alaska is amazing. A few weeks back , they couldn’t make snow, with snow guns . And the heat into Bering Sea, but notice how little cold pockets have been spit south. , but at the top of the world it’s barely normal. with a ring of “heat”. Then pockets of cold are small and way far south.
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Colorado Bob
/ December 31, 2014It’s like our “Top”: can’t spin any more , it’s wobbling like it’s about to fall over.
Currently at Ullensvang FORSOKS., Norway it’s 34.7 °F
In Lubbock, Texas it’s
12.3 °F
Ullensvang FORSOKS., Norway is less than 3 degrees from the Arctic Circle.
Elev 351 ft 60.37 °N,
The forecast for January 1st at Ullensvang FORSOKS., Norway tomorrow, is 45F with a low of 40F.
It should be cold in Texas on January 1st, but it is unthinkable that it will not freeze in Norway tomorrow night. Less than 3 degrees from the Arctic Circle.
I would invite Robert’s readers to do some research on the last day of year. Something i have done myself for years.
Use The Weather Underground page to search. , you can read the conditions at the top of
the Greenland Ice Sheet . Or anywhere on Earth, but let us all take the pulse of planet on the last day , and first day of an old year and a new year.
Here’s the gateway research tool ……………. Ullensvang FORSOKS., Norway
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=Ullensvang+FORSOKS.%2C+Norway
Just type in the search box .
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james cole
/ January 1, 2015“The forecast for January 1st at Ullensvang FORSOKS., Norway tomorrow, is 45F with a low of 40F.”
This is totally nuts! I am looking at Alaska, they are off the charts warm. Imagine the hit to premafrost!
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Colorado Bob
/ December 31, 2014I found my base marker –
Narsarsuaq, Greenland at 9:50 PM WGT / 12-29-2010
50F degrees east wind at 24 mph. This is today’s high so far , the temp went up 9F since noon. Max wind today was 54 mph.
This current reading is 22F above average max temp., and sets a new daily record by 6F. Beating 44F set way back in 2002.
http://coloradobob1.newsvine.com/_news/2010/12/29/5735005-narsarsuaq-greenland-at-950-pm-wgt-12-29-2010
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climatehawk1
/ December 31, 2014Impressive. Tweet scheduled.
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wolfhheinl
/ December 31, 2014Since we are concerned with current impacts, shouldn’t you be using the 20 or 10 year global warming potential (gwp) of methane rather then the 100 year gwp? Methane’s impact on local temperatures is immediate. Also, I checked out the CARVE project and think their discounting of winter methane generation will come back to bite them.
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wolfhheinl
/ December 31, 2014As an added note about the CARVE project, they only measure from May through September, possibly missing months of emissions. Consider these photos taken in March 2014.
http://mashable.com/2014/03/11/gallery-snowless-2014-iditarod/
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humortra
/ January 1, 2015Seventeen U.S. Cities on Track for Hottest Year
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/u.s.-cities-hottest-year-18496
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humortra
/ January 1, 20152014 hottest year ever
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/hottest-year-ever-5-places-where-2014-temps-really-cooked/
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humortra
/ January 1, 2015Women must be given control over their bodies if mankind is to survive as a species, David Attenborough has said.
The broadcaster and naturalist said that the world’s booming population – predicted to hit 11 billion by 2100 – will lead to our extinction unless something is done to tackle the problem.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/david-attenborough-women-must-be-given-control-their-bodies-mankind-will-perish-1481424
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Kevin Jones
/ January 1, 2015Just poking around this a.m. and found a little gem: “NASA climatologist Gavin Schmidt…once told Nate Silver that neither of them would ever see a year in which carbon dioxide concentrations have gone down, not ever, nor would their children.”
From Wikipedia, Carbon dioxide in Earth’s atmosphere. (From The Signal and the Noise: The Art and Science of Prediction Nate Silver Penguin Books 2013). p.s. HAPPY NEW YEAR!
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xraymike79
/ January 1, 2015“I fear their euphoria of merchandise will have no end and they will entangle themselves to the point of chaos. They do not seem concerned that they are making us all perish with the epidemic of fumes that escape from all these things…” ~ Davi Kopenawa, Yanomami leader and shaman
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james cole
/ January 1, 2015I could not find a single family member or friend over the holidays who is the least bit interested in the rapid climate change. Most believe since CNN does not cover it, it is not important. The monolithic corporate media has succeeded in taking Global Warming off the table. This is by design. US Corporate interests have got trillions invested in fossil fuels. They would sooner see us all die than lose money on their investment. Believe it.
How can you explain the heat over Alaska, oil country, not at least prompting a few stories of this irony. People who brag about their State Oil Checks every year, now see Alaska under the gun of climate change. Vast forest areas are already dead from insect damage due to lack of killing frosts.
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james cole
/ January 1, 2015“Britain is looking forward to what could be the hottest New Year’s Day on record today, with temperatures expected to reach 15C.”
59F for Jan 1st?
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Brian
/ January 1, 2015Happy New Year all……
The remarkable Chris Hedges on how Moby Dick is a metaphor for the course our civilization and our planet finds itself on. The myth of Human Progress as applied to our failing corporate oligarchy and what this means for the planet.
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wili
/ January 2, 2015Thanks for that, Brian. Chris at his best (and even his not-so-best is pretty damn good!).
One of the many takeaway lines:
“The urban poor are in chains, and these chains are being readied for the rest of us.”
And at about 46:30:
“I do not know, in the end, if we can build a better society. I do not even know if we will survive as a species.
But I know these corporate forces have us by the throat, and they have my children by the throat.
I do not fight fascists because I will win.
I fight fascists because they are fascists.”
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Brian
/ January 2, 2015I’m glad you found the speech worthwhile, Wili. And I do apologise that the link doesn’t work properly. I had no idea that the publisher had restricted viewing on third-party sites. The title can easily be found on youtube though.
I don’t agree with everything Chris says and does but he is a very intelligent and inspirational guy and walks the walk he describes in his talk. The struggle for public understanding of climate change can be so depressing sometimes that I found this speech to be a hopeful new years message.
I do think that until we are able, as a society to have a reasonable discussion about the role of corporations and campaign funding in subverting the political process against the greater public interest, we are going to have a very difficult time changing the course we are on and taking real action against the environmental challenges we face.
I saw an interesting quote recently to the effect that in previous centuries the struggle was to remove religion from the affairs of state. For our time, the biggest challenge may be to find a way to remove corporate and financial interests from the affairs of state.
The quotes you picked out as take away messages are Chris’s truth and I agree with him as they speak to the struggle we will all increasingly face as this century, with all its challenges, moves forward.
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Kevin Jones
/ January 2, 2015Keeling Curve tweets, (34 min ago) : “400.37 parts per million (ppm) CO2 in air 01-Jan-2015… Happy New Year!”
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Kevin Jones
/ January 2, 2015Interesting that NOAA is reporting 401.56 ppm for Jan. 1, ’15. (Both first daily average–not first hourly– to reach 400ppm this seasonal cycle, I presume.)
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Kevin Jones
/ January 2, 2015Keeling Curve just posted on their site 400.37 as their daily avg. Some hourly averages at about 402….
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Colorado Bob
/ January 2, 2015Rapidly Warming Oceans Set to Release Heat into the Atmosphere
What scientists discovered in 2014 is that since the turn of the century, oceans have been absorbing more of global warming’s heat and energy than would normally be expected, helping to slow rates of warming on land. What they will be talking about in 2015, and beyond, is when that trend might come to an end—likely following a routine shift in Pacific Ocean trade winds. Much of that extra sunken heat will eventually be belched back into the atmosphere by the overheating seas. The effects of ocean warming might be imperceptible to most of us, but they are far-reaching. They are driving fishing fleets further out to sea, ushering tropical fish into polar waters, and worsening flood hazards for coastal communities.
It can be difficult to probe the ocean, but it doesn’t help to look away. So scientists have been finding innovative new ways of peering beneath the swells, conscripting everything from seals to climate models to improve their grasp of marine temperature trends. Titanic international projects that are just kicking off, including the National Science Foundation-funded Ocean Observatories Initiative and Southern Ocean Carbon and Climate Observations and Modeling project, promise to pile on reams of new data and knowledge in the coming years—not all of it expected to be postcard pretty. Many of the discoveries from similar research during the past year were decidedly feverish.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/rapidly-warming-oceans-set-to-release-heat-into-the-atmosphere/
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Colorado Bob
/ January 2, 2015Monarch butterflies could be declared an endangered species. Here’s what that means.
Monarch butterflies are vanishing. Over the last 20 years, fewer and fewer of them have been making the long journey down to Mexico to survive the winter. By one count, their numbers have shrunk as much as 90 percent.
“An endangered species listing could mean sweeping new protections”
There are a few reasons for that: In Mexico, their winter habitat has dwindled due to logging. And in the United States, where they breed in the summer, they’re suffering from a decline of milkweed — the main food for monarch caterpillars before they turn into butterflies. Some recent research has suggested that the rise of herbicide-heavy farming in the Midwest is killing off milkweed.
http://www.vox.com/2015/1/2/7481337/monarch-butterfly-endangered
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Mark from New England
/ January 3, 2015Yes, I agree wholeheartedly. What a great way to pressure the new Congress of idiots to wake up to environmental realities. Since the Monarch is a beautiful, well-known butterfly, it makes for a good iconic species to rally around. And to think the EPA approved the new ‘Agent Orange’ herbicide.
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doug
/ January 2, 2015I would be interested in a discussion that we could carry over to the next thread if Robert posts anytime soon, on where in the U.S. would be the ideal place to live many decades hence, as a result of climate change. I have done a fair amount of research into the topic and have even written some “experts” for their opinions, but I don’t feel satisfied I have the right answer-yet.
Some of the considerations are of course sea level rise, droughts, extreme storms, a steady water supply, access to food, avoidance of extreme heat waves, and where there will be “community” so that it’s not a every man for himself mentality. I think also one would want to pick an area that does not get too cold or too hot in any part of the year, as well as a place where one could make a living.
In my research it seems many people think the pacific Northwest will be the place to be. Specifically west of the Cascades, but not right next to the ocean. Also the Willamette valley in Oregon is mentioned as perhaps meeting all of the criteria above.
But once some geographical considerations are narrowed down, you have to think about if you would want to live in a major city, or in a rural area. Also would you want to be near a water source ie. a river. The reason I am wanting to have this discussion is because I’m thinking about my offspring, and am considering buying some property for them. So, since this is property that one and/or their offspring, would hold onto for several decades at a minimum, one would need to think about what you are buying. Land? A house, an apartment? A commercial business or property? Price?
I’d commit to an ongoing conversation about this, if people are interested. Maybe if we put our heads together we can come up with some pretty good ideas.
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Robert In New Orleans
/ January 3, 2015On the face of it, the Pacific Northwest may seem to be a potential future Shangri-La, but when the heat cranks up big time in the desert southwest and large populations begin to migrate out, the Pacific NW will be in the relocation bulls eye for a lot these people.
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climatehawk1
/ January 3, 2015I agree, don’t believe there is really going to be a safe haven. Any such place is going to be overrun.
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Mark from New England
/ January 3, 2015The northeast and New England has many things going for it – adequate and evenly distributed rainfall, good soils in the river valleys, moderate temperatures (of course, this list is based on the past stable Holocene climate), healthy forests and a relatively well-educated populace. But, it has a high population density, most of which is concentrated in the large conurbations of NYC, New Haven, Boston, etc.). Still, given how water is going to be such a large issue going forward, even if that water comes more frequently as torrential flood events, at least there will be plenty of water here.
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doug
/ January 2, 2015I’d just like to add, before anyone responds, that it might sound defeatist to think about fleeing wherever you are and locate somewhere else as a result of climate change, but, I believe it’s just being realistic. Extreme droughts have been civilization killers in the past, and people WILL MIGRATE, as a result of that. (as well as several other aspects of climate change) It would be nice for all of us to stay in place, and work for building resiliency in the community where you live, but that’s probably not very smart in many areas of the Country. Climate change is likely to overwhelm mitigation efforts for lots of places in my opinion. So, if people are interested in having this discussion, (and Robert is okay with it) let’s talk!
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Colorado Bob
/ January 2, 2015Doug –
I just was listening to NPR , the human smugglers are mow loading large old ships with 500 to a !,000 people , and abandoning the them near Italy. Most are fleeing the Syrian. civil war , which is being driven by climate change.
45 years ago I fled Texas to live in the mountains, Because I was sure life in a city was waste of time. Since then , we have paved the mountains. And only the rich can live in Santa Fe, or any place. with a view.
This idea of fleeing , I find interesting . Because our fore sight is so poor.
Doug –
Read up on the 30 Years War. That’s template for the future.
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Colorado Bob
/ January 2, 2015Record-setting warm year in Tucson seems “consistent with” climate change projections, UA scientist says
No climate scientist worth his acidifying sea salt will speculate on whether one year of record warm weather is due to global warming or other forces of human-caused climate change.
But Gregg Garfin, a University of Arizona’s climate scientist, said 2014’s record warm temperature in Tucson — which matched the global record warm temperature for the past year — “certainly seems consistent” with projections that UA scientists and others have made for future global warming.
http://tucson.com/news/blogs/desertblog/record-setting-warm-year-in-tucson-seems-consistent-with-climate/article_baead3bc-92a6-11e4-8dca-a74afe850881.html
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dtlange
/ January 2, 2015– Yup, you bet.
“Many climate scientists say the burning of coal, oil and gas traps heat, changing the climate.” – Of course.
Coal’s war on humanity. Incoming Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky as executioneri-in-chief. Worse than evil.
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Colorado Bob
/ January 2, 2015Maybe God will help us. and kill off that old turtle.
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Colorado Bob
/ January 2, 2015Superhuman effort isn’t worth a damn unless it achieves results.
Ernest Shackleton
Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/e/ernest_shackleton.html#y0eY64PfwBZM1GSU.99
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doug
/ January 3, 2015Thanks for your response Colorado Bob. I think high elevations such as where you are, has some value in a warming world. Species will be heading to higher elevations, and towards the Arctic as the world warms. Of course that’s already happening, but not so much with people-yet, in the U.S.
I have looked at projections for future droughts, and the Northwest and Northeast parts of the U.S. look to be best off. Some people say Alaska will be the “new Florida” by the end of the Century, meaning where migration will be for U.S. citizens. It will likely stay wet, while most the rest of the Country is in drought. But I think long before then, people will migrate to the Northwest and Northeast parts of the Country. Maybe even North Central. (Probably) But I think the ideal place looks to be the Northwest, and if we have a collapse of civilization, which I don’t think is out of the question at all, these ideal locations will be of even more importance.
So, in my mind I think the Northwest is ideal, west of the Cascades, but if I do decide to buy some property up there, I want to buy the right kind! Not sure if city living is going to work out? A lot of people are saying Seattle and Portland will be inundated with people. Already homes are quite expensive in both those cities I think. So, my first inclination would be to buy in an area that has not seen huge increases in property values. Even as an investment, I think buying up there would be very valuable in the future, even if one decided not to move there. Again, I’d love to start a discussion with anyone else interested in this topic.
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islandraider
/ January 3, 2015My sense is that you are not alone in this idea. There is an epic building boom going on in the PNW right now. Was in Seattle over the holidays… the number of construction cranes was incredible! Not just in Seattle, but from Tacoma through Everett the amount of building going on is mind boggling. My non-demographic/non-scientific assessment is that the migration has begun already. I have family working in construction in the area… they are in their 40’s/50’s & feel like they have work easily until retirement. If I was picking a doomstead of some kind, I would look further north… perhaps the Sunshine Coast of BC? There are some pretty isolated islands near the north end of Vancouver Island that I would look at. I would also look further north in BC, up to Alaska.
The last few years in the PNW, from a weather perspective, have been really great. I feel like it will be our ‘turn in the barrel’ soon enough, though…
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Andy in San Diego
/ January 3, 2015Being from BC there are a lot of great areas. Sunshine coast being one of them (love it). The interior of BC such as Litton, Lilooet, Okanogan etc…are actually a form of semi arid desert. Williams Lake may be a good spot, hell maybe even Prince George! The Island is great, unless drought takes hold. North of Pemberton up the Duffy Lake road, as that will get built out eventually.
I for one am making that long term plan, and will be back in BC in about 10 years.
Being in Southern California, the goal is sock away a few bucks, and reduce house hold belongings. 10 years gives me plenty of time to enact this without any panic.
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doug
/ January 3, 2015Robert in New Orleans-thanks as well, for your response. I suppose I don’t have to tell you about projections for New Orleans. Maybe your kind of oldish like me, and probably won’t have to worry about it! As to your idea that lots of people may overrun the Pacific Northwest, that might be true, but that still might work out for people that had a little foresight, and decided to buy land up there. I’m just saying sometimes you should be rewarded for dealing with reality (climate change) before it got really bad. I am extremely egalitarian, at the same time one has to think about survival for their offspring. Maybe, even though lots of people would flee to the Northwest, it STILL would be the place to be for people who had a little foresight. What do you think?
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Andy in San Diego
/ January 3, 2015Kevin et al,
On those Keeling curve readings. We’re seeing some serious loading, and it is pretty solid. Does anyone think our ability to remove carbon has been surpassed such that new plant growth, ocean and other carbon sinks are finding it difficult to absorb more? Thus leaving it as atmospheric, reducing the chance of it getting soak up elsewhere?
Just smells that way, and if it is such then things may accelerate.
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Mark from New England
/ January 3, 2015Yes, to have it back at 400 ppm so fast is disquieting. What might it peak at later this year? And yes, the carbon sinks of the Amazon forest, forests generally and the oceanic phytoplankton are being overwhelmed. I think we’re at the start of a big ramp up in temps.
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doug
/ January 3, 2015Thanks for the perspective Island Raider. How’s the soil quality in the areas you’re talking about? Suitable for growing food? My understanding is that one of the problems with people just moving North as the climate changes, is that the soil quality diminishes. Another concern with Canada is of course, immigration. Not easy for us Yanks to live and or buy property there? Probably buying is no problem, but if you couldn’t move there, it kind of defeats the purpose. (Unless one was thinking of it as an investment only)
What do you think?
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Andy in San Diego
/ January 3, 2015The soil ranges between good & acidic (due to fir trees). A little trivia, Idaho potatoes use seed potatoes grown in Pemberton BC. This is due to a closed valley, with zero potatoes allowed in form anywhere else (ie store shelves). This way they keep the genetic makeup uniform & constant. They harvest these spuds and truck them to Idaho to grow what we see on supermarket shelves.
Americans can buy property in Canada, same as Canadians can buy in the US. It doesn’t trigger any taxable income situation. Oddly, as a Canadian living in the US, I can’t buy property in Canada as it would cause me to have a significant financial presence, thus causing my US income to become taxable. I can only buy if I move back.
If you look on google earth and scan around the valleys, you’ll see a fair amount of agriculture.
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doug
/ January 3, 2015Thanks Andy, being form BC, you probably have insight into the questions I brought up to Islandraider.
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xraymike79
/ January 3, 2015Where to run…
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dtlange
/ January 3, 2015No comment… except it looks pretty damn warm up there in the polar regions. All those orange and red blemishes. Sun spots? Sunburn? Weather-warts? A liberal agenda?

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Mark from New England
/ January 3, 2015The East Siberian Arctic Shelf looks particularly warm. Hello methane.
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Andy in San Diego
/ January 3, 2015All fall/winter, the cold section of the jet stream mangle has been smaller than last year. If you look at ice extent, the refreeze has slowed down as well.
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doug
/ January 3, 2015Thanks XrayMike.
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Apneaman
/ January 3, 2015American Exodus
Climate Change and the Coming Flight for Survival
http://www.newsociety.com/Books/A/American-Exodus
Giles Slade discusses his book American Exodus — Climate Change and the Coming Flight for Survival. (Audio)
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Kevin Jones
/ January 3, 2015Andy in San Diego: I do worry about loss of sinks. Oceanic & terrestrial. I recall (correctly?) the largest one year CO2 rise recorded by Scripps at Mauna Loa was the El Nino year of 1998. Almost 3ppm. Suggesting oceanic outgassing and/or terrestrial reduction of photosynthesis ? One day we will know, for sure. By the way, there is a blizzard warning for Hawaii, the big island out for above 11,000 ft……
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Kevin Jones
/ January 3, 2015Just checked NOAA ESRL GMD Trends in Carbon Dioxide: 1998 (the super El Nino year) still stands as the highest annual rate increase at 2.93ppm.. As Spike showed us way back at the beginning of this current exchange, there is variability in all temporal measurements. He showed NOAA showing an outlier above 400ppm a couple weeks ago. If current +400 readings continue we are 1ppm or so above avg rate of rise. A big deal? We’ll see.
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Kevin Jones
/ January 3, 2015Barry Danilow: sorry for the mis-attribution! Good work. (Yours too, Spike and All)
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Kevin Jones
/ January 3, 2015’98 also was the year of those humongous peat fires in Indonesia, I believe….
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Kevin Jones
/ January 3, 2015According to Wiki, Indonesia fires of 1997-1998 amongst the top three largest group of wildfires in 200 years, if not the largest….
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Kevin Jones
/ January 3, 2015And this just in (for me):
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/01/150102084700.htm
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dtlange
/ January 4, 2015“This is good news, because uptake in boreal forests is already slowing, while tropical forests may continue to take up carbon for many years.”
That is a quaint bit of botanical info from NASA.
Good for them.
But airborne pollutants from fossil fuel emissions, other than carbon, are killing urban and wild forests worldwide. We are rapidly losing our trees.
That carbon soaking ‘rescue’ foliage also absorbs every other toxic element in the aerosol mix of emissions.
” A new NASA-led study shows that tropical forests may be absorbing far more carbon dioxide than many scientists thought…”
– That just proves scientists think.
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Kevin Jones
/ January 3, 2015Headline writers! Might read: NASA finds Good News Today, Not So Good, Bye & Bye…
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Kevin Jones
/ January 3, 2015In other not wholly unrelated news the DOE’s EIA reports US oil production to rise in 2015. Free Oil Tomorrow! Free Bud’s Tomorrow! Apparently the EIA’s been enjoying Free bud today….
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Brian
/ January 3, 2015Australian 2015 wildfire season is upon them. Stay safe Australia……….
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jan/03/six-homes-destroyed-southern-australia-catastrophic-fire-danger
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RWood
/ January 3, 2015It’s the feeling of Prof. McPherson:
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/27714-are-humans-going-extinct
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mikkel
/ January 4, 2015McPherson is wrong about many details and catastrophic warming on his timeframe won’t happen.
For example, he claims in there that if we stop pumping aerosols then the earth’s temp would rise 1 degree “in a matter of days or weeks.” This is absurd considering thermal inertia. What he probably got confused about was that aerosols negate about 1W/m^2 of forcing (http://www.yaleclimateconnections.org/2008/06/common-climate-misconceptions-why-reducing-sulfate-aerosol-emissions-complicates-efforts-to-moderate-climate-change/).
“Aerosols are the primary reason why Earth is still at around 380 parts per million CO2-equivilent (CO2e), rather than the 460 ppm CO2e projected if all the positive forcings were added together. Conveniently enough, aerosols pretty much cancel out the warming from all the non-CO2 greenhouse gases.”
Certainly we will experience quite rapid warming once coal plants are shut down (hopefully very soon) but the overall impact is a fraction of CO2. As it says, the temp rise over the next 100 year (if there was no more CO2 emission): “A reduction of anthropogenic atmospheric sulfate aerosols by 50 percent means that 1.34 degrees C (2.41 F) warming suddenly becomes 1.70 degrees C (3.06 F).”
Hardly 1 degree rise in days. Other claims of his are similarly hyperbolic.
If people want to pay attention to the worse than IPCC but still realm of reality, they should pay attention to Hansen and Robert.
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xraymike79
/ January 4, 2015Mikkel,
The article you quote from is 6 years old. Things have changed for the worse since that time. For instance, Hansen and his team of researchers have found that temperatures would rise 1.2 degrees (plus or minus 0.2°) within 10 days:
“Hansen’s new study estimates this aerosol “dimming” at 1.2 degrees (plus or minus 0.2°), much higher than previously figured. Aerosols are washed out of the atmosphere by rain on average every 10 days, so their cooling effect is only maintained because of continuing human pollution…”
http://www.climatecodered.org/2012/02/beyond-carbon-price-faustian-bargain.html
Also, the danger of abrupt climate change is real. Google this on youtube:
“Abrupt Climate Change: Past, Present, and Future”
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xraymike79
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lesliegraham1
/ January 4, 2015Three Days Without Contrails
The post-9/11 grounding of all commercial aircraft resulted in the sudden disappearance of condensation trails (contrails) from jet aircraft across the entire United States. According to the Nature study, the potential of contrails “…from jet aircraft to affect regional-scale surface temperatures has been debated for years…,” but it was not until the three-day grounding period that doubts concerning the existence of the phenomenon could be put to rest.
The Phenomenon: A 1.8 Degree Celsius Increase In Temperature in North America
The study found “…an anomalous increase in the average diurnal temperature range (that is, the difference between the daytime maximum and night-time minimum temperatures) for the period 11-14 September 2001.”
Links to full study via this site:
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/artificial-weather-revealed-post-9-11-flight-groundings
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wili
/ January 4, 2015mikkel wrote wrt to McPherson claims: “he claims in there that if we stop pumping aerosols then the earth’s temp would rise 1 degree “in a matter of days or weeks.” This is absurd considering thermal inertia.”
Yes, good point; the response would certainly not be instantaneous. But wouldn’t you say that “a matter of months or years” would work…still pretty darn fast for an increase at or near 1 degree C (which even your later citation admits–if 50% reduction leads “suddenly” to a .36 degree increase, than presumably the (admittedly unrealistic) loss of _all_ anthropogenic aerosols would lead to a .72 C increase, right?
(I do agree that McPherson too often gets things wrong, but it can be useful to suss out just how right or wrong he is in particular instances, and it is better to leave out emotionally laden words like ‘absurd,’ imvho. “Off by one or two orders of magnitude in this case” is more precise and just as damning.)
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xraymike79
/ January 4, 2015@wili…
The most recent thoughts on when the warming effects would manifest from the loss of manmade aerosols is believed to be 10 years…
“The aerosol impact is not precisely known, but Ramanthan and Feng estimate it as high as ~1°C. As the world moves to low-emission technologies, most of the aerosols and their temporary cooling will be lost. Recent research finds that quickly eliminating all greenhouse gas emissions (and necessarily the associated aerosols) would produce warming of between 0.25 and 0.5 °C over the decade immediately following (Matthews and Zickfield; Hansen, Sato et al.)”
http://www.climatecodered.org/2013/09/is-climate-change-already-dangerous-3.html
Science is not static but constantly evolving.
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xraymike79
/ January 4, 2015“Without removing CO2 from the atmosphere (feasibility unknown), we are already committed to a warming above 2ºC.”
A List of Unavoidable Sources of Warming
“3. Deferred warming from unmasking air pollution aerosol cooling
We all know that burning fossil fuels produces air pollution, which causes and contributes to a myriad of very costly health disorders. Black carbon (soot) particulates is a large contributor to global warming, but the aerosols are a much larger source of global cooling. Because these pollutant emissions have to be reduced for air quality and virtually stopped for climate change and ocean acidification mitigation, the hidden warming will be unmasked and the global temperature will rapidly rise. The amount of this cooling is very uncertain but estimated by the 2007 IPCC AR4 at up to 0.8ºC and the 2014 AR5 at about 0.4ºC.
(Ramanathan and Feng were published in PNAS 2008 pointing out that the prevailing science, which does not account for this deferred warming, is wrong, and calculated that the commitment due to the ocean heat lag and deferred aerosol warming (for a high aerosol warming) is 2.4ºC.”
http://www.climate-change-emergency-medical-response.org/climate-change-commitment.html
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wili
/ January 4, 2015Thanks, xray. I would have thought that it was pretty clear from the effects of volcanoes that most of the cooling behavior of aerosols was gone after a few months to years, depending on the size of the volcano and leaving aside feedbacks.
That commitment of 2.4 degrees is pretty damn frightening. Is that on top of the .85 degrees or so that we already have under our belts?
And I would have thought that the ocean heat lag would have gone the other way–that the oceans still haven’t caught up with the added heat of the atmosphere (just as it hasn’t reached equilibrium with the CO2 concentrations yet). But I am constantly surprised by how counter intuitive the world can be.
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RWood
/ January 4, 2015Thank you for clarifying some of the hyperbole. That’s why I posted the link. I do read here daily for such education.
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mikkel
/ January 4, 2015xraymike: the contrail link refers to differences in max and min temperatures during the day. The increased radiation from fewer aerosols during the day leads to increased heat loss at night and is relatively net neutral (although maybe slightly warming). This may seem pedantic except for the fact that most plant sensitivity seems to be based on higher night time temperatures in terms of blooming, ripening and other aspects.
The link you sent doesn’t say that the temperature would rise after 10 days, it says that the negative forcing would disappear in that time. That is a big difference: the total net forcing is now about 2W/m2 and the total aerosol forcing is: (again from Hansen)
“Hansen et al., based mainly on analysis of Earth’s energy imbalance, derive an aerosol forcing -1.6 ± 0.3 W/m2, consistent with an analysis of Murphy et al. that suggests an aerosol forcing about -1.5 W/m2. This large negative aerosol forcing reduces the net climate forcing of the past century by about half.”
Only about half to maybe 2/3 of that is man made, so we’re looking at 1W/m2 increase. If the temperature has only increased about 1C under 2W/m2 in the last century, certainly an extra 1W/m2 won’t cause the temperature to rise that much in weeks or months!
That said, if someone wants to argue that 1W/m2 will cause a total of 1C extra warming, that sounds reasonable; it just will take quite a while to happen.
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mikkel
/ January 4, 2015wili: it is difficult to predict because forcing is an energy imbalance (flow) which is different than the total energy of the system (stock). Volcanic eruptions can have enormous short term effects in blocking out a fraction of sunlight, which leads to rapid weather changes, but the total energy of the system is little changed. If sulfur was constantly pumped into the atmosphere, it would stop a lot of the increase in heat imbalance, but over time the heat already in the system would come out and stabilize: i.e. it wouldn’t remain so cold. This has now been identified as a major problem with geoengineering.
The reason volcanoes have an impact of a few years is that when volcanic ash gets washed out of the system the immediate balance is restored to the long term energy stock.
xraymike: in that sense, I guess it is possible to have large and fairly immediate but shallow warming, but again, the total heat in the system would only start increasing at 50% greater rate, so after a few years things would equalize. Perhaps if aerosols were gone we’d see a quick spike and if that were enough on its own to kick in many positive feedbacks we’d see outsized long term increases, but otherwise we wouldn’t.
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mikkel
/ January 4, 2015wili: to me absurd means something beyond any rational thought that it should be immediately identified with a modicum of thinking by the person saying it (so something can be absurd when said by one person who has knowledge and context but not by another person who doesn’t).
In that sense, conflating immediate forcings with long term equilibrium temperature increase — without any mechanism in between — is absurd for someone who is arguing from scientific authority that we’re going to go extinct within 15 years. If he merely said it would add 1C (or even 2C) to the overall outcome, then that could be arguable but not absurd.
I happen to agree with xraymike’s link that we’re already committed to 2.4C for this reason, largely because of the work by Robert and Hansen reasonably demonstrating that long term sensitivity is probably close to 6C. Also, his quote of between 0.25C and 0.5C within a decade of aerosol removal also seems quite reasonable, but again is much different than 1C within weeks.
xraymike: I know that abrupt climate change is a real phenomenon, what I object to is McPherson’s certainty around time frames and mechanisms. The proper answer is that these things might happen and that they are much more likely to happen the greater the energy imbalance (the more CO2 we pump out, faster than equilibrium can be reached). The other part of the answer is that we can’t be sure what it’d look like: it could get really hot or it could cause huge glacial melt and short term cooling. Whatever happens, variability is going to increase dramatically and make life miserable.
This is still far disconnected from claiming extinction.
I’m watching the AGU youtube video and it’s thus far it’s great. One of the best videos on climate I’ve seen. He is doing a great job of explaining the nature of tipping points and psychology that we should pay attention to. Even the ice cores in the AGU talk don’t show rapid global warming, after all, the methane increase was only 50%. I’m not saying it wouldn’t cause massive climate disruption, but it was probably due to energy shifting and (obviously) did not lead to runaway climate warming. This is much different than the AGW/McPherson crew.
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xraymike79
/ January 5, 2015@Mikkel
I’m thinking McPherson is trying to influence social behavior any way he can, hyperbolizing threats in order to wake up the public. But as we can see, it’s not having much of an effect and is even turning people away from his real message which is that humanity needs to fundamentally rethink it’s way of living which is inherently unsustainable.
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xraymike79
/ January 5, 2015@ Mikkel
Also, whether we are talking about a few years, a decade, or even 50 years of several degrees warming, all of those time frames are instantaneous on a geologic timescale and can be considered abrupt on a human timescale since they happen within a person’s lifetime. Catastrophic in all cases. It’s interesting to note that up until just a month ago, the scientific consensus was that the lag time for CO2 greenhouse effects was roughly 40 years, but has now been moved up to a decade:
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/co2-emissions-peak-heat-18394
And as climate science has matured over the decades, the earth appears to be much more sensitive than thought:
“Swings of temperature that in the 1950s scientists had believed would take tens of thousands of years, in the 1970s thousands of years, and in the 1980s hundreds of years, were now found to take only decades. Ice core analysis by Dansgaard’s group, confirmed by the Americans’ parallel hole, showed rapid oscillations of temperature repeatedly at irregular intervals throughout the last glacial period. Greenland had sometimes warmed a shocking 7°C within a span of less than 50 years. For one group of American scientists on the ice in Greenland, the “moment of truth” struck on a single day in midsummer 1992 as they analyzed a cylinder of ice, recently emerged from the drill hole, that came from the last years of the Younger Dryas. They saw an obvious change in the ice, visible within three snow layers, that is, scarcely three years! The team analyzing the ice was first excited, then sobered — their view of how climate could change had shifted irrevocably. The European team reported seeing a similar step within at most five years (later studies found a big temperature jump within a single year). “The general circulation [of the atmosphere] in the Northern Hemisphere must have shifted dramatically,” Dansgaard’s group eventually concluded.”
The Discovery of Global Warming by SPENCER R. WEART
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mikkel
/ January 5, 2015xraymike — he’s saying that we’re going extinct by 2030. There is no changing behavior there except getting ready to die.
Don’t get me wrong, I totally agree with what you’re saying. In fact, I’ve been critcizing climate science for years for underplaying likely variability and speed of change. There hasn’t been a good push back against the idea that everyone can just move up to Canada, which is painful but doable. Instead, it is likely that all places on Earth will have such wild swings that any adaptation is nearly impossible — nearly, but not totally.
For instance, even though climate science has shown that system response is more sensitive than first thought, sensitivity works both ways. Regreening and reforesting efforts are highly likely to buffer a huge amount of change and provide a lot of protection against seasonal swings, floods and droughts. People focusing on regenerating soils have successfully reduced runoff by 90% or so, meaning long term soil storage, regeneration of aquifers and end to erosion. Combine that with permaculture principles and we can create food and habitat for many.
I went to visit a mature food forest in NZ a couple months ago (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L74WkW1rWKU). When they started 20 years ago, the land was compacted and infertile and now they have a regenerative native forest that is almost indistinguishable from pristine forests, in addition to much food production for minimal labor. The forest creates its own microclimate — when we were there, the Antarctic wind was blowing strongly with a windchill of probably around 45F, but inside their forest it was at least 65-70F if not warmer. Similarly, I’ve read about well planned forests allowing food growth in AZ and other places where it often gets to 110F+ but inside the forest is 80F.
The Guytons took 20 years to get to that point, but they say that they made many mistakes that greatly increased the time, and think it’s doable within 10 years if done without those mistakes.
I don’t think our current architecture or way of life is salvageable, but I do think that massive ecosystem regeneration would give us more than a fighting shot to muddle through as best as we can. I am not so sure that things have to be worse on a social level than they have always been.
But of course we’re running out of time. I actually wish that people would stop spending so much energy trying to characterize climate change and instead redirect it into these projects. We’re at the point that I think increased knowledge is having marginal returns, since it’s all pointing to extreme sensitivity and inability to truly predict what will happen. Things won’t be solved by science but by reframing reality, which to me is most effective by the people who are ready just joining together and creating a new social reality, then incorporating the young and those who suffer disaster/fear as appropriate.
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xraymike79
/ January 5, 2015@Mikkel
I’m all for forest restoration, permaculture, etc… I just think they need to be done on an “industrial” scale to have meaningful effect. Only governments can provide the infrastructure and guidance to carry out such large scale projects, and anyone looking at the daily headlines can see that this is not going to happen. As Sheldon Wolin recently remarked, “Capitalism is destructive because it has to eliminate the kind of customs, mores, political values, even institutions that present any kind of credible threat to the autonomy of the economy…-–that’s where the battle lies. Capitalism wants an autonomous economy. They want a political order subservient to the needs of the economy.”
As far as McPherson, I was told that he has now gotten even more extreme in his outlook…
“Collapse of industrial civilization, global nuclear meltdown, super abrupt climate change, and total human extinction pretty much guaranteed sometime in the next 2 to 20 years!”
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dtlange
/ January 4, 2015arctic-news.blogspot.com
Friday, January 2, 2015
Strong winds threaten to push sea ice out of Arctic Ocean
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dtlange
/ January 4, 2015http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2015/01/strong-winds-threaten-to-push-sea-ice-out-of-arctic-ocean.html
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Mark from New England
/ January 4, 2015Stunning. Are we really looking at an imminent ‘state change’ here, or would we have seen this same phenomenon in 2007 and 2012 before the previous min. summer ice events? Was the winter sea ice as fluid then?
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Andy in San Diego
/ January 4, 2015That really ties in with what a lot of us (if not all of us) have been watching all winter. That high temp anomaly between Alaska & Russia. I looked at the temp and temp anomaly as usual this morning. With the temperature, you can really see the invasion of warm air pushing the temperatures up across a large area. It “pairs” with the above animation very well.
The high SSTA off the coast of BC and Alaska may be too powerful now and is setting the course for the Beaufort.
What I find amazing with that animation is the thick ice forcing down the east side of Greenland. That is open during the summer, so it is all excreta from the Arctic Ocean. It really does make me wonder what we’ll see summer 2015 and onward.
Air Temp.
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Mark from New England
/ January 4, 2015Yes, and when you look at the temp. anomaly map, you see it’s 18 – 20 C above normal over the ESAS. That in combination with the winds off Siberia will likely do away with the thin sea ice there well before ‘normal’. Perhaps 2015 will see a new record min. extent and volume of sea ice. I wonder what Robert makes of these developments? (cueing Robert, it’s the new year and all…:-)
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